Question: Now that expensive militaristic fascism is going out, will these boards still retain their vitriol?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Friday, September 19, 2025 19:30
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And now, as for Chris's question...
Long as you got folk, you'll have vitriol, find a person, you'll have an argument, find two people, you'll have a fight - find three and two will find a way to victimise another, that's the philosophy, right ?
Lemme take it further - find four, and the fourth will offer to protect them from each other, if they just kindly hand over their sovereignity.. "for their own good"...
Uh huh, I'll take the vitriol, thanks.
I have noted a few disappearances, and even in one case a rather ham handed and inefficient attempt to remove any evidence that they were ever here, very badly done and missed a lot, but points for tryin, I guess.
And to be honest, I am kinda pissed about it, cause Conservatism in and of itself isn't wicked although it's been used as of late as a cover for much wickedness - and instead of being adults and trying to put the brakes on a situation or at least offer their input, they've either chosen to take their ball and go home, or throw a nonstop tantrum, like nasty little children.
I have concerns too, but hiding under a rock or throwing a damn tantrum isn't going to do one damn whit of good to their resolution, where coordinated action just might have some effect, even if only to mitigate them some...
Only, if there's no one left adult enough to coordinate WITH, well, that's not an uncommon position to be in - but I don't have to be happy about it.
It does, sadly, show the "true colors" I've been pointing out all along, mind you.
We can fix this mess, I do believe we can - but WE have to fix it, if we sit back on our asses expecting some white knight to come and save us from our own pathetic moral cowardice in not standing up to it hard enough in the first place...
Well that's a long wait for a train that ain't gonna come.
Ain't no one gonna save us, but US.
Me, I want a lot of things, but you know what I really want, have wanted for near seven years now ?
I want those fucking towers back up.
It's such a small thing, in the grand scheme of all that's wrong in the world and our country right now, and no, it won't do shit for the economy or get us out of the mire in the middle east or close gitmo... sure, a small, little thing...
But for seven years the powers that be chose to leave that great, gaping, festering wound in the spirit of our nation so that they could poke at it for political gain, left us hurting to make us easier to bend, and folks... ENOUGH.
It's time to cleanse that wound and heal it - put them damn towers back up, higher, stronger, with a flagpole on top of each one capped with an eagle screaming our defiance at those who think we can be made to hurt, to be afraid, just by knocking down a pair of office buildings.
That might kill some of us, but it should NEVER be able to kill our spirit, our will to be who we are, the belief, seldom held to but there all the same, in the very essence of all of us under every disagreement of race, politics, religion, culture, or what have you - underneath it all, is that we are AMERICANS, proud, stubborn, and at the very root of each and all, standing on iron knees incapable of bending to any form of tyranny.
Fuck bailing out wall street - you want to regain the will, confidence and hope of the american people ?
Put the towers back up, NOW.
Sure, we don't really have too good a history of meeting that ideal, but people, we TRY, and that's better than a lot of folks can say.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Chances are the towers would be back up if it was clear how many disasterous events happened on 9/11/01.
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Originally posted by MalBadInLatin:
I think you're swell. You have your views, they're predictable yet simple. And you're mean spirirted with a lack pretense. There are people that agree with me that I like less than you. America needs people like you so somebody likes Palin.
I kinda feel sorry for you, the only victory you had during the election was oppressing gays. Right now Republiconservatarians are an island. How insignificant the mighty have become
I'm " mean spirited " because I agree that marriage is defined as 1 man + 1 woman, or that at some point, we all have a right to life? Wow. I got news for you, this so called island you speak of? Has routinely voted for the definition of marriage, across the nation. Doesn't in the least mean we're oppressing anyone. Hard for gays to compare themselves w/ the black civil rights crowd when they have every right anyone else has, and when blacks vote 70-80 % with Republicans on this one.
We're no more 'mean spirited' to Gays than we are to polygamist or those who wish to marry another species.
Get over it, move on. There's nothing to gain here.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Those who favored smaller Gov'ts and more freedom are now on the outside, looking in.
So who, exactly, were the ones who favored smaller government, and how'd that work out for them?
Not too good, as Bush tried to play nice, and still got his hand bit off. He was stupid to try, to think his brand of politics, which worked well in Texas, could serve him well in D.C.
Bush was and remains naive about a great many things when it comes to politics.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by MalBadInLatin:
...And I will have homicidal thoughts towards those against gay marriage and continue to consider them to be the human garbage I always thought they were.
For your own 'protection' , we've informed the Secret Service just how much you're liking the new President-elect...
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We're no more 'mean spirited' to Gays than we are to polygamist or those who wish to marry another species.
Wow... so now gays are "another species", eh?
I know that's not what you meant, but that really could have been worded better.
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Not too good, as Bush tried to play nice, and still got his hand bit off. He was stupid to try, to think his brand of politics, which worked well in Texas, could serve him well in D.C.
[u[Bush was and remains naive about a great many things when it comes to politics.
As do you, my friend... as do you.
You really might want to look into the "power" of the Texas Governor some time, to see what kind of impact Bush actually had here in Texas.
And pray tell, when exactly did Bush try to "play nice", and when exactly did he "get his hand bit off"? For the vast majority of his time in office as President, he's had an amazingly compliant Congress. That's why they were so often referred to as a "Rubber Stamp" Congress.
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"Now that expensive militaristic fascism is going out..."
Are you sure?
Pres-elect Obama plans to expand the military by 100,000 troops, increase forces in Afghanistan quite a bit, and hunt down and kill Bin Laden (never any mention of a trial 
). His Iraq disengagement plan isn't much different from the one already on the table.
Not seeing that much change from the current 'expensive militaristic fascism'.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Question: Now that expensive militaristic fascism is going out, will these boards still retain their vitriol?
Bah.... I'll believe that when I see it.
I might even be impressed when they say that diminished millitary funding is going to give medical care to children and they quit raging war on me and my smoking brothers and sisters.
We know that won't happen though....
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Bah.... I'll believe that when I see it.
The truth is nobody can be certain exactly what Obama will do.
He plans to cut the military budget but increase its size. He plans to withdraw from Iraq, but not right away. His economic and domestic programs have completely disappeared from sight.
We can be certain of several things. He will raise taxes on everyone. He will not produce more energy. He will seek strict regulation of business and energy. He will limit gun ownership, provide Federal funding for abortion and stem cell research. He will seek accomodation with nations like Iran and Venezuela. He will buy a puppy.
But his detailed plans are gone and his record so lacking that he could concievably move towards outright socialism...or...be Bush's third term.
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