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McCain and Palin are lying whores!

POSTED BY: ImperaTodd
UPDATED: Monday, November 10, 2008 00:00
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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 12:51 AM

So rapo, in case you've forgotten, you've been challenged to come forth with evidence backing your talking points that:

UN Resolution 1441 allowed individual member states to invade Iraq. Quote the relevant part of the Resolution.

George Bush did not lie when he said that Iraq wanted to target the USA with WMD. A clarification from Bush would be nice.

Palin did not mean to imply that Obama is sympathetic to a "terrorist" agenda when she used the word "terrorist" to describe a one-time co-worker. A clarification from Palin would be nice, otherwise one might think that she WANTED her statement to be misconstrued.

There was any sort of "link" between Obama and Ayers, other than they worked on education issues together and believed in the same type of educational reform.
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Also, information from YOU showing the heinousness of ACORN or the educational reform that Ayers worked for would be nice, especially since YOU keep quoting the description "radical". (BTW, I've heard conservatives calling for "radical" reform of government. I've heard of "radical" mastectomies. Does that make those peole "radical"? )


So, set the record straight, once and for all. Nut up. Back up your points with real evidence instead of innuendo. Show us what you're truly made of.





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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 4:16 AM

Well Rapo, I guess you've shown us all what you're TRULY made of: a vacuum.

You're a big empty suit waiting to be filled. No wonder you cling to talking points, there's no "there" there, where you are.

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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 4:19 AM

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Well Rapo, I guess you've shown us all what you're TRULY made of: a vacuum.



Well, he certainly does SUCK!



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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 4:30 AM

Gov. Palin isn't married to anyone who wants to leave America. Her own son is fighting FOR America, in Iraq. Pretty shallow charges you guys have.

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Ah, so if you love America too much, you must leave it. I guess those draft dodgers in the sixties were the real patriots then, eh? And the Confederacy must have REALLY loved America. And slavery, of course...



That doesn't even make any sense. If you love the country, you'd never leave it. Moron. We didn't HATE the British, we just wanted to live life on our own terms. That's why folks decide to dissolve the political bonds which tie them to another. Draft dodgers didn't go off to form another country, so that analogy fails, miserably.



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RUE
Wednesday, October 8, 2008 4:37 AM

"Gov. Palin isn't married to anyone who wants to leave America."

You're right of course. He wants the entire STATE to leave America, and him with it. And that makes it better --- how exactly ?

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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 4:47 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Gov. Palin isn't married to anyone who wants to leave America. Her own son is fighting FOR America, in Iraq. Pretty shallow charges you guys have.



So Todd Palin has never been a registered member of the Alaskan Independence Party? Their founder, speaking of secession from America, had this to say:

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The Alaskan Independence Party quotes Vogler as stating "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."



I suppose those "damned institutions" they have no use for don't include the Vice Presidency or the Presidency, right?

For the record, Alaska's election registration records show that Todd Palin was indeed a registered member of the AIP. So Palin is married to a secessionist. That's a fact. Deal with it.

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That doesn't even make any sense. If you love the country, you'd never leave it.


Obviously, then, Todd Palin doesn't love America, since he has supported secession.

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We didn't HATE the British...


Nah, we just shot them for the sport of it.

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...we just wanted to live life on our own terms. That's why folks decide to dissolve the political bonds which tie them to another.


You're talking about political bonds such as running for the Vice Presidency, I assume. I agree - the Palins SHOULD dissolve all their political bonds.

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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 12:36 PM

Don't know where else to post this (didn't want to start a new thread):

Global Electoral College votes (voting ends 1 November):

Obama 8482
McCain 16

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/10/what-if-the-who.htm
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RUE
Monday, November 10, 2008 12:00 AM

for completeness:

Published on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 by Times Online/UK
McCain Campaign Paid Republican Operative Accused of Voter Fraud
by Hannah Strange

John McCain paid $175,000 of campaign money to a Republican operative accused of massive voter registration fraud in several states, it has emerged.

As the McCain camp attempts to tie Barack Obama to claims of registration irregularities by the activist group ACORN, campaign finance records detailing the payment to the firm of Nathan Sproul, investigated several times for fraud, threatens to derail that argument.

The documents show that a joint committee of the McCain-Palin campaign, the Republican National Committee and the California Republican Party, made the payment to Lincoln Strategy, of which Mr Sproul is the managing partner, for the purposes of "voter registration".

Mr Sproul has been investigated on numerous occasions for preventing Democrats from voting, destroying registration forms and leading efforts to get Ralph Nader on ballots to leach the Democratic vote.

In October last year, the House Judiciary Committee wrote to the Attorney General requesting answers regarding a number of allegations against Mr Sproul's firm, then known as Sproul and Associates. It referred to evidence that ahead of the 2004 national elections, the firm trained staff only to register Republican voters and destroyed any other registration cards, citing affidavits from former staff members and investigations by television news programmes.

One former worker testified that "fooling people was key to the job" and that "canvassers were told to act as if they were non-partisan, to hide that they were working for the RNC, especially if approached by the media," according to the committee's letter. It also cited reports from public libraries across the country that the firm had asked to set up voter registration tables claiming it was working on behalf of the non-partisan group America Votes, though in fact no such link existed.

Such activities "clearly suppress votes and violate the law", wrote John Conyers, the Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. The letter suggested that the Judiciary Department had failed to take sufficient action on the allegations because of the politicisation of the department under the then-attorney general, John Ashcroft.

The career of Mr Sproul, a former leader of the Arizona Republican Party, is littered with accusations of foul play. In Minnesota in 2004, his firm was accused of sacking workers who submitted Democratic registration forms, while other canvassers were allegedly paid bonuses for registering Bush voters. There were similar charges in Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Oregon and Nevada.

That year, Mr Sproul's firm was paid $8,359,161 by the Republican Party, according to a 2005 article in the Baltimore Chronicle, which claimed that this was far more than what had been reported to the Federal Elections Commission.

Mr McCain and his running mate Sarah Palin have been linking allegations of registration fraud by ACORN, the community group, to the Obama campaign.

ACORN has been accused of registering non-existent voters during its nationwide drive, with reports of cartoon characters such as Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse being signed up.

The organisation insisted that these are isolated incidents carried out by a handful of workers who have since been dismissed.

However, the Republican nominee insists that the group is involved in fraudulent activities, noting that Mr Obama, before leaving the legal profession to enter politics, was once part of a team which defended the organisation. At last week's debate, he said that ACORN was "perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history", a claim which the Obama campaign says represents political smear.

The revelation of Mr Sproul's involvement with the McCain campaign - he has also donated $30,000 to the ticket and received at least another $37,000 directly from the RNC - could undermine his case.

"It should certainly take away from McCain's ar

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