McCain and Palin are lying whores!
POSTED BY: ImperaTodd
UPDATED: Monday, November 10, 2008 00:00
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What's so hard acknowledging that Ayers is a multiple bomber, admits to it, doesn't repent from it, and , were it not for bungled prosecution, he'd have served hard time in a Federal pen. You listing other members of a board serves ZERO purpose in explaining away what Ayers did and why Obama is so connected to him.
A really pathetic attempt on your part, to be honest. Why not just sit back, take a deep breath, and come to grips that Obama associates himself w/ really bad people.
Rezko
Ayers
Rev. Wright....all just for starters.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Since you didn't exactly link the article, how was I supposed to access it, ya boob?
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Let's party like its 1929.
Yeah, I did, and I'll do it again.
JUST like it's posted above... http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122212856075765367.html
Moron.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Saint Rap, martyr for 'truth' and practitioner of hypocrisy
"... explaining away what Ayers did and why Obama is so connected to him ..."
SOooo connected to him. Just like everyone else on the board --- right ? And everyone in the Chicago Schools Research Consortium. And everyone in The Collaborative who actually worked WITH Ayers - right in the same branch ! Why, they were ALL just tools of a mad ex-bomber ! Every single one of them !
You stupid turd.
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Did you notice that you didn't link the article until AFTER you said I wasn't reading it on purpose?
And you call ME a turd?
So, back to the point in question: What are you more pissed off about? That Obama links his campaign and image to Ayers? That he DOESN'T? That Obama worked with him and actually (GASP!!!) spoke on the phone with him five years ago? That they funded the "far left" group ACORN? (BTW, did you check out their website? I DID link it, yanno!)
Or, are you just so filled with bile that you can't think straight?
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Let's party like its 1929.
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Uhhm, Saint Rap, martyr for 'truth' and practitioner of hypocrisy has already shown he can't think straight. You know, massive stockpiles of WMDS near "Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat", roaring ON FIRE ! economy and other notable delusions.
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So, Saint Rap, self-anointed martyr for 'truth' and practitioner of hypocrisy
You made a lot of claims about Obama that simply aren't true.
You said he was an ACORN organizer - he never was.
You said he was a trainer for ACORN - he never was.
You said ACORN worked with his organization Project Vote - it never did.
You claim that because he represented ACORN in a lawsuit alongside the US DOJ for equal voting rights he and ACORN brought down the US economy - a stupid claim on it face (unless of course it was Barney Frank who did it with an offhand comment, a much more credible claim).
You said that because he (and many other highly respected people and government officials) worked in the same organization as Ayers that the two shared and share radical leftist goals - presumably along with everyone else there who associated with Ayers in exactly the same way.
And to support your jackass claims you quote an irrellevant Hillary Clinton statement and an article by the WSJ that's so full of factual errors it would take pages of type just to document them all.
You do realize just how BIG a boob you are --- Right ? All in your effort to defend McCain and Palin and all THEIR lies.
I'd ask you if your shocked at what you are (in case you didn't know it you're a cheap repubican whore) but it would be a pointless question - you're too stupid to even get how degraded you are.
Either way, you're just going to have to face it
John McCain was one of the Keating Five and he associates with really bad people.
Phil Gramm
John Hagee
Karl Rove
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Under no circumstances in a FREE society is it acceptable for a group use violence as a form of protest. No matter HOW strongly their views.
I call bullshit.
Not only is it acceptable, in some cases it's downright fuckin patriotic.
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed*, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
*And we've come a long way from "Consent of the Governed" when universally hated policies are rammed down the throat of the people with the threat of downright force, when it's rule of the gun in truth, enforced by a federalised, militarised standing army(police) at the beck and call of the powers that be.
And in case nobody recognizes it, which, given the state of public education(indoctrination) in the US, I'd make that at least a 50/50 bet, that happens to be the preamble to the Declaration of Independance, a document with a laundry list of misdeeds laid at the foot of King George that is chillingly similar to the bullshit we face from our own administration today.
http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/index.htm
Hell, Jefferson outright supported the practice.
"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
"I hold it, that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people, with have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions, as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government."
Pat Henry was in full agreement with that sentiment as well.
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect ev
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Quote:Well, the thing with links is, you have to click them to get where the evidence is. I grant you, the links themselves aren't proof, but I did expect that you figured out the 'clicking'-concept by now. My bad, no worries.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
No, you presented a "link" as if that's some sort of accepted bit o' evidence. It's nothing more than a fictionalized story written by a partisan and published in a far left publication.
No thanks.
As you can see, I posted the shorter version of the article above. There's a whole lot of facts in there, presented by a Pulitzer-winning investigative journalist. If you click on the link that follows the words "longer version:" in my other post above (it's easy, you point to it with your mouse and press the left mouse button), you get led to a version of the article that has tons of documentation. After you've looked at it, let me know which documents were the ones that were "fictionalized".
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Trolls against McCain, you betcha!
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Quote:I got your point ages ago, you didn't get mine, though. Instead of getting a list of Biden's lies, you got a list of unreferenced claims that was released from the McCain campaign! And you consider this list to be a list of unspun, objective facts! And apparently anybody who questions the veracity of these "facts" is a partisan who's obsessed with dissing the source rather than dealing with the facts themselves!
Originally posted by Kirkules:Quote:You're finally getting the idea (assuming you're joking). For you the source of the information determines whether it's factual or not. I always thought facts are facts, independent of the source.
Originally posted by Khyron:
Ah, Kirkules, I forgot about you. Could you please provide an independent, non-partisan list of Biden's debate "lies"? The one you provided were released by the McCain campaign and is so full of spin that it's hard to make out what Biden's lies are and what the McCain campaign's lies are.
Is any of this hypocrisy that you exhibit sinking in yet?
If you want to show that Biden lied, either get an independent, non-partisan list with references, or provide references for the list you've presented before.
In fact, I'm such a nice guy, I've picked out the most glaring omissions of evidence for you:
Quote:I think it should be noted that Biden was referring to an amendment that didn't address taxes at that income level.
1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.
Quote:Opposing something but then conceding that it's necessary when the circumstances have changed isn't lying. Except when you're a Democrat, it seems ...
3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”
Quote:If McCain said this, the right would probably be vehemently arguing that this is a "half-truth" at worst. But double-standards aside, why does John McCain hate our troops? He voted against them because it contained a timeline? Wtf?
4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.
Quote:'Whatever Biden meant or didn’t mean to say on the rope line, he has supported clean coal in the past.' ( http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_biden-palin_debat
5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.
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Quote:Needs evidence (I won't google for you).
7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false.
Quote:Needs verification.
8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.
Quote:Working with tribes ... does that mean the US military recruiting tribes to oppose insurgents? Because here's what the dear commander actually said about that: 'Another facet of the Iraq strategy that McKiernan doubts can be duplicated in Afghanis
9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.
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Puppet oh puppet, where for art thou?
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
There goes the neighborhood.
Shiny! Let's be bad guys!
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