McCain and Palin are lying whores!
POSTED BY: ImperaTodd
UPDATED: Monday, November 10, 2008 00:00
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Originally posted by rue:
"Blaming the current mess on the Keating stuff from 20+ years ago is not logical."
First, I didn't blame the mess on 'the Keating stuff' (strawman). Second, McCain was censured in 1991 - not all that long ago (error of fact). Third, it shows that McCain has an agenda not in the best insterests of ordinary people like me. Fourth and last, Gramm was until recently McCain's economic advisor, I'm guessing b/c they share the same philospohy (ignoring an issue).
Is it a philosophy YOU support, given how it's worked out ?
"Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Maxine Waters, Kendrick Meek ..."
Chris Dodd is a Senator, error of fact.
McCain tried to get reforms passed IN THE SENATE in 2005. How Barney Frank and other repesentatives could have blocked his reforms from their committee positions in the HOUSE is beyond me. Further, democrats were in the MINORITY in BOTH houses at the time.
The House of Representatives didn't gain a democratic majority till 2006. By then Fannie and Freddie BOTH had stopped acquiring toxic loans which were generated mainly in 2003 under a repubican White House AND Congress.
In the Senate terms of absolute numbers Democrats do not to this day have a majority. In terms of relative numbers the Senate is in fact evenly divided between 49 Democrats and 49 repubicans.
"... the only point about Bush is that there is no point. He is not relevant to the future."
So you are in FAVOR of continuing past mistakes because they are irrelevant to the future ? Smooth move.
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Rue, I knew it couldn't last here...honesty & civility. I corrected the Dodd piece in my post before you threw it up in my face.
Now ..let's look at your Signature : " Silence Is Consent". What better describes what the Dem Banking & Finance Chairmen did for the last 2 years?
As for the rest of your response, it's just your usual ideological drivel. Good day sir.
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Quote:I agree. Pelosi and Reid are greatness writ small. Too many Dems have caved on REALLY IMPORTANT issues.
Based on what you know & have seen, do you think Pelosi & Reid are up to the task? I do not. I'm not completely ready to concede the election, but I'd feel a whole lot better about losing if I could at least count on the Dems to move forward with the Special Prosecutors and the Justice Dept to rev up the perp walks.
But Dems in general are not AS beholden to "big money" as Repubs, and are more responsive to popular pressure. Sending THEM a pound of bacon might actually shame them.
There are some dems who simply don't belong in the Party, Feinstein being one of them.
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"Rue, I knew it couldn't last here...honesty & civility. I corrected the Dodd piece in my post before you threw it up in my face."
We cross-posted. Deal with it.
And BTW, this mess was CAUSED by a repubican White House AND Congress. Toxic loans started earlier but were most prevalent in 2003. If you're math-challenged that was FIVE YEARS AGO. Defaults were already rising in 2004. Fannie and Freddie limited their exposure in 2005. By 2006 IT WAS TOO LATE to do anything with Fannie and Freddie that they hadn't already done themselves.
It's time you started acknowledging facts.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
By the way, how is it that you can support a person who thinks so little of America that they would actually marry - not "pal around with", but actually MARRY and have children with - someone who is still active in a Secessionist movement? They hate America so much that they actually want their state to break away and become its own country.
I mean, if Obama is the antichrist because he occasionally talked to a person who did some despicable things 40 years ago, how is it that Palin is seen as any more honorable for her actions and associations? She doesn't want to change America, she doesn't want to reform America - she wants Alaska to LEAVE America. How is that putting "Country First"?
Mike
The Palin's aren't active in any secessionist movement. This is the sort of childish crap that the Left dreams up when they can't honestly respond to the charges against their own candidates.
Seceding from the Union isn't necessarily a matter of HATING the USA, as much as it is of recognizing a vast difference with it and what ever political views held in your land and the dominant political / social culture of the USA. Be it the South, Key West, Texas or Alaska.
In no way does she want to 'leave' America, only to fix it, which it desperately needs fixing.
I'm 100% in favor of her view, and totally reject Obama's socialist view .
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
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Originally posted by rue:
And BTW, this mess was CAUSED by a repubican White House AND Congress. Toxic loans started earlier but were most prevalent in 2003. If you're math-challenged that was FIVE YEARS AGO. Defaults were already rising in 2004. Fannie and Freddie limited their exposure in 2005. By 2006 IT WAS TOO LATE to do anything with Fannie and Freddie that they hadn't already done themselves.
It's time you started acknowledging facts.
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That is a lie, and even Jim Cramer points out what happened.
YOU deal w/ it, it's almost wholly at the feet of the Democrats, not the GOP. http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/187307/october-
06-2008/jim-cramer
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Quote:Obama isn't active in any terrorist movement. This is the sort of childish crap that the Right dreams up when they can't honestly respond to the charges against their own candidates
The Palin's aren't active in any secessionist movement. This is the sort of childish crap that the Left dreams up when they can't honestly respond to the charges against their own candidates.
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Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:Obama isn't active in any terrorist movement. This is the sort of childish crap that the Right dreams up when they can't honestly respond to the charges against their own candidates
The Palin's aren't active in any secessionist movement. This is the sort of childish crap that the Left dreams up when they can't honestly respond to the charges against their own candidates.
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No one ever accused Obama of being active in any terrorist movement. He just agrees w/ their radical educational agendas.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Quote:The why use the term "terrorist" if that isn't what Palin meant to imply? C'mon rapo, even YOU know better than that!
No one ever accused Obama of being active in any terrorist movement.
Quote:Oh, there you go again! Say it aint' so! Bringin' up the boogeyman!
He just agrees w/ their radical educational agendas.
So tell me, what WAS that "radical agenda"? Dontcha know?
BTW, you never DID answer my challenges, you morally deficient cretin of a coward!
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Based on what you know & have seen, do you think Pelosi & Reid are up to the task? I do not. I'm not completely ready to concede the election, but I'd feel a whole lot better about losing if I could at least count on the Dems to move forward with the Special Prosecutors and the Justice Dept to rev up the perp walks. I want to see prosecutions...prosecution of anyone and everyone involved, regardless of their Party.
On THAT, we are in complete agreement.
Mike
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Originally posted by AuRaptor:
The Palin's aren't active in any secessionist movement. This is the sort of childish crap that the Left dreams up when they can't honestly respond to the charges against their own candidates.
They are far more active, and have been so far more recently, than Obama's "involvement" with domestic terrorists.
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Seceding from the Union isn't necessarily a matter of HATING the USA, as much as it is of recognizing a vast difference with it and what ever political views held in your land and the dominant political / social culture of the USA. Be it the South, Key West, Texas or Alaska.
Ah, so if you love America too much, you must leave it. I guess those draft dodgers in the sixties were the real patriots then, eh? And the Confederacy must have REALLY loved America. And slavery, of course...
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In no way does she want to 'leave' America, only to fix it, which it desperately needs fixing.
But she's still married to the guy who still wants to leave. I guess secession is the fix America needs, huh?
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I'm 100% in favor of her view...
Yes, because you, like Palin, hate America.
Mike
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