McCain and Palin are lying whores!
POSTED BY: ImperaTodd
UPDATED: Monday, November 10, 2008 00:00
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Originally posted by SignyM:
You parse your "facts" pretty carefully, don't you? If the whole canvas is blue but with one red spot, you'll point to the red spot.
If Bush used the term "mortal threat", "unique and growing threat" and said that Iraq was intending to hit us with WMD, and Scott McClellan used the term "imminent threat" you'll says See? Bush didn't use the term "imminent thread so he didn't lie!
No, he didn't lie because the information he gave was factually accurate, AS BEST HE KNEW, dumbass. It has nothing to do w/ the lying Left who misquote Bush, but rather that EVERYONE from before Bush was even in office was saying Saddam was a threat, had WMD and, at the very least, wasn't living up to the U.N. resolutions . Based on what he knew, he and the US Congress agreed that the use of force was the ONLY way to solve the issue. Bush didn't lie.
Quote:It's not ME saying it, the Resolutions THEMSELVES refer to earlier passed resolutions - SPECIFICALLY. Again, you're simply wrong.
If UN Resolution says Recalling all of our previous resolutions, we now decide to give Iraq a final chance to comply YOU'LL says See? The UN included its previous Resolutions be reference and therefore that means can could invade, totally ignoring the entire meaning of the Resolution!
Quote:Huh? Now you're simply rambling incoherently
If the market goes up ONE DAY but everything else is tanking, you'll cling to the one-day phenomenon.
Quote:.... now THAT'S funny. You're trying to consolodate Obama's connection w/ Ayers to nothing more than an occasional phone conversation ???
You have not shown in this thread anything other than the fact that Obama once worked on a board with a guy and had occasional phone conversations. Heck, you can't even figure out what you're so lathered about!!
Rapo, for your own sanity's sake, please give up that heavy-duty filter between you and the rest of the world.
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
At the heart of this “Top Ten” list is the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which Ayers founded and Obama and Ayers co-chaired for five years, raising and spending at least $110 million in an effort to bolster a “radical” (Ayers’ word) reform program in the Chicago Public Schools from 1994 to 2001.
1) Out of the Woods:
The Woods Fund financed the hiring of Obama in 1985 by the Developing Communities Project.
According to The Nation: “The Woods Fund, in many ways, is responsible for helping start Obama as an organizer and shaping his political identity. In 1985 the foundation gave a $25,000 grant to the Developing Communities Project (aka the “DCP”), which hired Obama, at 24, as an organizer on Chicago’s economically depressed South Side.”
The Woods Fund was founded by the Woods family which owned the Illinois-based Sahara Coal Company, a major supplier of coal from its mines to major Illinois power companies. Commonwealth Edison, the giant Chicago-based electric power company was headed by Thomas Ayers, father of Bill Ayers.
Obama served on the board of the Woods Fund from 1993 until 2002. Bill Ayers joined the board of the Fund in 1999 and continues to serve on the board today. He chaired the board for two years during that time.
2) Know your ABCs:
Obama’s DCP supported radical school reform project together with Bill Ayers.
In 1987 in the wake of a controversial strike by the Chicago Teachers’ Union, the Alliance for Better Chicago Schools, or ABCs, was formed to lobby for a new Illinois law that would mandate the establishment of a new power center in Chicago public schools. Local school councils would be established to watchdog union teachers and their principals and they would have the power to fire principals at will.
Bill Ayers helped organize the ABCs group, was its contact person and later its chair. Barack Obama worked on school reform efforts for the DCP at that time and the DCP was a member of the ABCs. Chicago United, a business
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Quote:Everybody knew that Iraq was NOT planning to strike at the USA with WMD, but that didn't prevent the Administration from saying so. Dumbass.
No, he didn't lie because the information he gave was factually accurate, AS BEST HE KNEW, dumbass.
Quote:Yes, it "refers to" the original resolutions, but WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT THEM? SPECIFICALLY??? Quote me the part where Resolution 1441 says that the UN intends to implement the old Resolutions as originally written.
It's not ME saying it, the Resolutions THEMSELVES refer to earlier passed resolutions - SPECIFICALLY.
Quote:If I'm rambling incoherently it's because I'm quoting YOU.
Huh? Now you're simply rambling incoherently
Quote:For the math-challenged, 1999-2002 is a three-year overlap (not five years).
Obama served on the board of the Woods Fund from 1993 until 2002. Bill Ayers joined the board of the Fund in 1999 and continues to serve on the board today.
And what did this "radical reform" consist of??
Quote:In CONSERVATIVE parlance that's called "local control". Seems like you would be FOR that.
Local school councils would be established to watchdog union teachers and their principals and they would have the power to fire principals at will.
Quote:So "she" (Bernadine Dohrn) left Sidly in 1988. ONE YEAR LATER Obama becomes a three-month associate there. How much overlap is that??? Oh yeah: NONE.
She left Sidley in 1988. Barack Obama left Chicago in the fall of 1988 to attend Harvard Law School. In the summer after his first year at Harvard he became an associate in the Chicago office of Sidley and Austin.
I'm busy. I'll respond to the rest later.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Everybody knew that Iraq was NOT planning to strike at the USA with WMD, but that didn't prevent the Administration from saying so. Dumbass.Quote:Yes, it "refers to" the original resolutions, but WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT THEM? SPECIFICALLY??? Quote me the part where Resolution 1441 says that the UN intends to implement the old Resolutions as originally written.
That wasn't the isssue, DUMBASS, it was whether or not Iraq HAD WMD!!
It's not ME saying it, the Resolutions THEMSELVES refer to earlier passed resolutions - SPECIFICALLY.Quote:
Huh? Now you're simply rambling incoherently
It's all in the Resolutions. No need for me to sift through them for you.
Quote:For the math-challenged, 1999-2002 is a three-year overlap (not five years).
Obama served on the board of the Woods Fund from 1993 until 2002. Bill Ayers joined the board of the Fund in 1999 and continues to serve on the board today.
Yeah, for THAT board.
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Saint Rap, self-appointed martyr for the 'truth', and hypocrisy practitioner
The biggest connection they have is through Thomas Ayers, Bill Ayers' father.
I posted this in another thread, but in case you don't repsond there (which I expect you won't) I'll repost it here to show what kind of person Tom Ayers was.
... since Thomas Ayers (Bill Ayers' father) fits prominently into your scheme, I thought I'd post some information from his obituary, which shows him to be a radical lefty and person of ill repute (you betcha' 
):
Mr. Ayers headed Commonwealth Edison for seven years, ending in 1980.
Before assuming the top job, he helped negotiate the first labor contract between the energy giant and the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers.
He served on many boards, including that of G.D. Searle, Chicago Pacific Corp. , Zenith Corp., Northwest Industries, First National Bank of Chicago and Tribune Co., owner of the Chicago Tribune, his family said.
He also worked with many nonprofits, serving as the chair of the Chicago Urban League, the Chicago Symphony Orchestra , the Chicago Chamber of Commerce and Industry, Chicago United, Community Renewal Society and the Chicago Community Trust.
Respected by Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., Mayor Richard J. Daley and the business community , he worked with all sides in an effort to curb housing discrimination, his family said.
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BTW: you can't handle the truth !
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Saint Rap, self-appointed martyr for the 'truth', and hypocrisy practitioner
"The claims concerning Obama and Ayers, much to the angst of the Dems, is (sic) anything BUT " debunked".
Except - they have been - with facts.
Simply working in the same organization - ALONG WITH DOZENS OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO ALSO WORKED THERE - doesn't mean anyone has 'close political ties'. Or any ongoing ties at all. Or that anyone shares an agenda from the 60's.
Now, I've posted a list of people who worked on the board directly with Obama. Are you claiming that those people ALSO have a radical agenda and have close political ties ? And if not, what makes them different from Obama ? Why does he get smeared and they don't ?
The same applies to ANY organization associated with another organization that's assopciated with another organization. It doesn't mean individuals are personally linked in any meaningful way.
I've also posted facts refuting Obama's supposed connections with ACORN. As a lawyer, he represented them in a lawsuit which was ALSO joined by the US DOJ against the state of Illinois for equal voting access. Are you saying the US DOJ also helped ACORN bring down the entire US economy by joining the lawsuit ? And if not, why is Obama's connection to ACORN different from the US DOJ's ?
Now this isn't the first time I've brought these facts up - it's the fifth. And you have YET to respond to them.
Up for a challenge ? Try addressing FACTS for a change.
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BTW: You can't handle the truth !
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Quote:Oh, I get it, just not an IMPORTANT one. So, you post these facts that are cogent to only a moment here or there to back up your general view, now I get it- thanks, this saves me a lot of time now.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
After the House did NOT vote on a 'bail out', the market did indeed rebound.
Dumbass, I posted a gorram FACT.
*Terminator voice*
FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE.
This concludes my direct involvement with AU on this board, I now turn my attention to the martial law they're slipping in in case the collapse causes civil war (another reality CRAppy would dispute with his many, albeit briefly if-at-all relevant 'facts').
Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Oh, I get it, just not an IMPORTANT one. So, you post these facts that are cogent to only a moment here or there to back up your general view, now I get it- thanks, this saves me a lot of time now.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
After the House did NOT vote on a 'bail out', the market did indeed rebound.
Dumbass, I posted a gorram FACT.
*Terminator voice*
FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE.
This concludes my direct involvement with AU on this board, I now turn my attention to the martial law they're slipping in in case the collapse causes civil war (another reality CRAppy would dispute with his many, albeit briefly if-at-all relevant 'facts').
Who you kidding? Without AURaptor or Hero here you and the rest of the un-civil gnomes would have no one left to say Fuck You to. Of course you'd still have me, but usually I'm better to hurl a You're a fucking idiot at.
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I wish the Left would grow the hell up .
Hell, I've wished that about the Right for most of my adult life. Instead, we get little boys like you who want to play their wittle war games in their itty-bitty sandbox...
Mike
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Quote:Jong, you also have your moments of civil unrest, and times when I agree not with ya, but you never resort to brainless stoogery, which AU has been amping up ever since the economic bubble burst. He's afraid now- and like a virtual cornered, injured animal, he's unapproachable, as far as politics & security go.
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Who you kidding? Without AURaptor or Hero here you and the rest of the un-civil gnomes would have no one left to say Fuck You to. Of course you'd still have me, but usually I'm better to hurl a You're a fucking idiot at.
I just can't deal anymore- maybe when it all calms down, and who the Hell knows when that'll be?
Chrisisall
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By the way, how is it that you can support a person who thinks so little of America that they would actually marry - not "pal around with", but actually MARRY and have children with - someone who is still active in a Secessionist movement? They hate America so much that they actually want their state to break away and become its own country.
I mean, if Obama is the antichrist because he occasionally talked to a person who did some despicable things 40 years ago, how is it that Palin is seen as any more honorable for her actions and associations? She doesn't want to change America, she doesn't want to reform America - she wants Alaska to LEAVE America. How is that putting "Country First"?
Mike
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