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Speaking of Poll Numbers...

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Friday, September 19, 2008 3:02 AM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

A lotta talk has been uttered recently about folks never changing their minds or positions, and while there is a point to that, it's not completely true.

As dangerous as the gullible pansys who are so terrified of imagined boogeymen can be, as a political force, their own rabid flailing is day by day pushing me closer to the thought of choking down my ire long enough to vote for a candidate I cannot stand as an act of desperate self-defense against the brown-shirted faux-news horde.

And I know for damned sure I ain't the only one.

-Frem



People don't usually change their political affiliation unless they always had a tendency toward the other side. Some of us have always suspected that your Anarchist bravado is just an act, and believed you were really a repressed liberal Democrat. Nice to hear you've finally come out of the closet and thrown you support to Obama. Now that the truth has set you free, tell us what you really think.

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Friday, September 19, 2008 3:48 AM

My opinion of em hasn't changed, pissant.

They're even MORE incompetent bad guys than the scum who's kool-aid you're drinking cause they don't have evil in their hearts and are always conflicted cause they wanna "do good" without realizing they are just greasing the slippery slope a little more.

And by lying to themselves about their motivations and intentions, combined with at least a half-hearted attempt to at least APPEAR to be playing by the rules, this makes them disorganized and less effective.

And all the easier to hack off at the knees while I go about the business of poisoning the well for both sets of malicious motherfuckers.

Your select brand of scum is only better at it cause they don't even try to hide it no more, don't bother with the pretenses, and conversely have managed to swell the ranks of my people quite significantly - not to mention drive many others to be far more sympathetic to my cause than ever before.

And so I am resorting to the classic american tactic of handling third world countries whom our corporations have an interest in exploiting, by supporting a leader who is easier to sandbag, manipulate or remove if necessary - thus ensuring a less effective resistance against both the means and end point of the plan in mind.

A tactic, mind you, that I stole outright from the folks who's kool-aid YOU are drinking right now.

Just because your own ideology trumps, and often directly conflicts with, the end goals as expressed - which are often as not base lies to begin with when it comes to mainstream parties, don't go projecting your own foolish political naiveties on me.

I have only ONE side in a conflict, mine.

And as often as not, I don't tell you what it is, and you've only my word for it when I do.

And if you trust THAT, you're every bit the fool for drinking my kool-aid as anyone elses.

Why don't you reach down and find a pair for once, and make your own choices, instead of being just one more bullet in tyranny's gun for my people to soak up when the time comes.

Cause at the current point in time, you're just an obstacle to me, no more, and no less.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Friday, September 19, 2008 3:51 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Why don't you reach down and find a pair for once, and make your own choices, instead of being just one more bullet in tyranny's gun for my people to soak up when the time comes.

Cause at the current point in time, you're just an obstacle to me, no more, and no less.

-Frem



I don't think i have much to fear if you and your "Anarchist" buddies are really Obama liberals like I suspect. You will lead the gun confiscation goons door to door at the orders of you supreme leader Obama. Your not an anarchist you're a buffoon like PN, with delusions of grandeur. There's also a good chance the you and PN are one in the same.

Pissant, Ha, you can do better than that Frem/PN.

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Friday, September 19, 2008 4:13 PM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Rue,

Anytime you trot out the "racist" boogey-man..."KKKarl Rove" ect, your argument loses merit.



You call Obama the "token black guy", and then say others loose credibility by mentioning race?

Could you be any bigger of a hipocritical dickhead?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, September 19, 2008 4:22 PM

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Originally posted by Kirkules:
Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

A lotta talk has been uttered recently about folks never changing their minds or positions, and while there is a point to that, it's not completely true.

As dangerous as the gullible pansys who are so terrified of imagined boogeymen can be, as a political force, their own rabid flailing is day by day pushing me closer to the thought of choking down my ire long enough to vote for a candidate I cannot stand as an act of desperate self-defense against the brown-shirted faux-news horde.

And I know for damned sure I ain't the only one.

-Frem



People don't usually change their political affiliation unless they always had a tendency toward the other side. Some of us have always suspected that your Anarchist bravado is just an act, and believed you were really a repressed liberal Democrat. Nice to hear you've finally come out of the closet and thrown you support to Obama. Now that the truth has set you free, tell us what you really think.





Hello Kirkules,

It seems to me that someone has stated their intention to choose the lesser of two evils...

And it seems to me that you are upset that your candidate is not perceived as the lesser evil.

If someone says they would rather not drown, and then they say they hate being burned, and follow that by saying that they would prefer to drown than to be burned to death.... would you then rise up and decry them as a drowning-loving hippocrite?

Such thinking implies a limited scope of thought. I also think you are demonstrating a very skewed view of Frem's philosophies. It may stoke your ire that he saw your candidate as slightly worse than the other guy, but that does not imply he wants to marry the other guy and have his babies.

That kind of argument is the kind that destroys rational debate and intelligent discussion, in my humble opinion.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, September 19, 2008 4:27 PM

Story,

Mentioning race is NOT the same as calling someone KKK, neo-nazi ect...I guess they didn't teach you that at PC Liberal School, huh?

"Could you be any bigger of a hipocritical dickhead?"

I guess I could be, if I tried. But then I would be in your league (of total hypocritical dickheads)....not really someplace I care to be.

Now fuck off back to the cornfield, Story. It's way past your bedtime.

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Friday, September 19, 2008 4:36 PM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

That kind of argument is the kind that destroys rational debate and intelligent discussion, in my humble opinion.

--Anthony



Anthony, you've been around here long enough to know that "rational debate" is a rare thing around here. My literary skills limit my ability to take part in "intelligent discussion", but I know bullshit when I hear it and Frem pushes it on us constantly under the guise of "Anarchism". I think part of the "Real World" discussion here is calling out BS when you hear it.

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Friday, September 19, 2008 4:45 PM

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Originally posted by Kirkules:
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

That kind of argument is the kind that destroys rational debate and intelligent discussion, in my humble opinion.

--Anthony



Anthony, you've been around here long enough to know that "rational debate" is a rare thing around here. My literary skills limit my ability to take part in "intelligent discussion", but I know bullshit when I here it and Frem pushes it on us constantly under the guise of "Anarchism". I think part of the "Real World" discussion here is calling out BS when you here it.



Hello,

Well, calling out B.S. when you see it is indeed germaine to adult discussion, preferably when done politely.

But I really don't see how you can label Frem as a Liberal or Democrat or anything approaching the 'government please watch over us' mentality.

A similar analogy woud be how I registered Republican this year so that I could vote for Ron Paul. But the Republicans only share a small handful of my ideals. I left my independent comfort zone to vote Republican this one time, but I do not think, by and large, I am a Republican thinker.

In my opinion, the Republicans stomp on more freedoms than they uphold. The Democrats uphold most freedoms, most of the time, but neglect the one that I believe secures the rest. It's very irritating.


--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, September 19, 2008 4:46 PM

Here, here. Poll are effing useless people. If I polled 1000 people in LA vs 1000 people at Leavenworth, KS for example, think they might be different?

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Who weeps for her only son;
There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
A grave that the Burmans shun;
And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
Who tells how the work was done.

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Friday, September 19, 2008 4:46 PM

Double bloody posts.

I hate politics on the internet...

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There's a widow in sleepy Chester
Who weeps for her only son;
There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
A grave that the Burmans shun;
And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
Who tells how the work was done.

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