Speaking of Poll Numbers...
POSTED BY: Kwicko
UPDATED: Saturday, September 20, 2008 00:17
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Looks like Sarah's star peaked a li'l early - polls now have Obama up an easy 5 points over the McPain ticket.
How's that taste?
Mike
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Looks like Sarah's star peaked a li'l early - polls now have Obama up an easy 5 points over the McPain ticket.
How's that taste?
Tastes like a dead heat. No wait... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/
Why it wasn't so long ago that many of those states were blue...wasn't so long ago Barrack had a massive lead in electoral votes. In less then a month he's lost about forty votes and McCain has added about seventy.
In any event, the convention bounces are done, I think this is how things shake out till the debates.
People are generally tired of Obama, they generally like Palin, and for the most part are pretty settled until the next big thing. Personally I think the financial crisis came too soon. In a week or two people will be saying "hey, that wasn't so bad" and they'll be focused on the debates and the next big crisis.
By then Bidon will have said something stupid...like 'paying higher taxes is patriotic'. Oops... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080918/ap_on_el_pr/biden_taxes
H
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Why does anyone even listen to polls anymore?
They can be manipulated, or changed, or the results skewed to show what you believe.
I'm sure that if we took a "poll" on this board it could be mad to look any way we wish.
Just look at it this way, if the pollsters reported their findings accuratly, they could say that its a deadheat between Obama and McCain. 50/50. But they could forget to mention that they only asked 2 people.
Polls dont matter.
Its the results that do.
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Hero, you cynical bastard, after everything you've seen from Palin, if you still want her to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency, then you just don't give a fuck.
The woman is not ready, or anywhere close. She hasn't spent the last couple years getting ready, her highschool debate style of "getting through" tough questions without answering them or even understanding them is cute if she's running for class President,
but this is fucking serious...she took a soft-ball interview from Charlie Gibson who asked her a couple questions without even a hint of going for the jugular when she proved to the nation she had no fucking clue...
contrast to the weak argument that Obama is also untested - Obama has fielded a vast array of reporters and their tough questions, including Fox News Bill O, without preconditions. You may disagree with his positions, but you can't disagree that he knows his shit.
You know that if Palin becomes President for any reason, she will be at the whim of her handlers...she may have the confidence, but she doesn't have the information that is supposed to be what gives you the confidence, to hold that office.
That doesn't bother you?
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Quote:Bingo! Why we still talkin' about this?
Originally posted by Righteous9:
Hero, you cynical bastard, after everything you've seen from Palin, if you still want her to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency, then you just don't give a fuck.
HKCavalier
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So the true test for office of the President is whether you can "handle" the Media?
Wow, I thought there was a lot more to it...
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Originally posted by Righteous9:
Hero, you cynical bastard, after everything you've seen from Palin, if you still want her to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency, then you just don't give a fuck.
That doesn't bother you?
I like everything I've seen from Palin. I think she has the experiance to do the job. So no, it does not bother me, probably because we're not seeing the same things from her.
I give enough of "a fuck" to listen to the person, not the attacks. To look at her record, not the liberal commentary. To look at her positions on the issues I care about, not her placement on the tabloid newstands.
I liked her from the moment she started speaking the day McCain announced her and I've liked her more every day since then. For you the opposite is true. That's politics.
Why does your dislike for her have to be so personal? I'm not voting for Barrack, but I still think he's a pretty good guy. I'm no fan of Joe Bidon, but I could see us finding common ground talking football or something.
I think the truth is Sarah Palin represents a fundamental threat to the Democratic Party and Liberal agenda. She is far more representative of most women in America then the feminists could ever hope to be. A mother, happily married, strong willed, Christian, and Conservative. In other words, she could be the end of the Democratic Party. They could weather defeat by McCain...they can not lose to a woman.
H
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are you fucking joking?
It's not about whether you can handle the media, though if you can't handle them I'm not sure why I should expect you to handle foreign leaders with any awareness, skill or grace.
its about whether you know what the fuck is going on, how things work, whether you have thought about these issues and thoroughly analyzed the ramifactions of certain choices over others.
"WE can't second guess them, we can't second guess them we can't seond guess them, "
is not only bad foreign policy, but it smacks of Palin having none. She's repeating what her coaches told her to say, and she's even doing that badly.
"His world view"! ??????
Bush Doctrine Palin, it speaks directly to whether or not you have been following foreign affairs in a way that qualifies you for the Vice-Presidency.
Go to war with russia!!!!!!?????
Fanny and Freddie have become too big for the Tax Payers????
"We can see russia from Alaska"
Seriously dude,
you didn't have a point. You had nothing to defend her with, you just decided to try to refocus the subject.
As to those other things that you are chomping at the bit not to discuss Wulfie, what are they and how has she proven she is qualified?
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Edit to respond to Hero
My acknowledgement of her inexperience and unpreparedness is not a personal attack on Palin,
I think she may be a little out there, but so are alot of people, and I don't think her being out there matters to the base.
What's sad is that it doesn't matter to you that she is not prepared to do the job,
and if there's one thing above others that I find offensive about her, in the same way I found it offensive about Bush, is that inspite of her inadequacies in this area, that's not going to stop her from putting the country in jeapordy for her own betterment.
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And motherfucker you are so full of shit if you are going to tell me you like what you've been hearing from her. I honestly don't even believe you. I didn't need spin to alert me to a real fucking crisis happening in Charlie Gibsons interview, and she has not gotten better!
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by the way, why do you repost my comments like that....
taking 'that doesn't bother you' out of context so that you don't have to respond to the content of the question?
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Hero, I think you hit the nail on the head.
I doubt I'll vote for McCain, or Obama for that matter.
But the truth IMHO, is that neither candidates really deserve to be President.
No one heard of Obama before the Dems trotted him out as the token black guy..he never did anything of any renown before.
McCain got the nod because he played the game, and had a military backround (one in which he aquited himself honorably. Unlike certain Swiftboat folks. Or the current Prez.) Pallin is just the Repubs answer to Hillary.
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'Hero' gets his talking points straight from team KKKarl Rove / Roger Stone. Why else do you think he spent an entire thread insisting against all fact and opinion that Obama should apologize for something he didn't do ? Out of concern for Obama or his own poor mother's outrage ? It was the exact same tactic Stone used too try and keep that exact same non-point alive. 'Hero''s a political shill with his nose firmly up the repubican party's butt. Don't even bother.
BTW I have some very unflattering opinions about the Palin demographic which I will keep to myself for now. But with a little thought you can probably come to the same conclusion.
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