Capital Offense
POSTED BY: AnthonyT
UPDATED: Sunday, November 16, 2025 04:49
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Better duck, he's reachin for the boomerang.
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Quote:Fine. Just don’t tell someone else not to serve you the same slice of pie.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
How's them apples?
And neither signy or you could have known there were no WMD, and technically still can't. An inability to find something is not evidence that it doesn't exist. If that were the case, my car keys would cease to exist every morning for about 30 minutes before work.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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But, um...the CIA just admittd that they knew Hussein was lying. And they knew why (Iran). And anyone REMOTELY FAMILIAR with Hussein's culture knew that Hussein would say anything to make his government look as dangerous as possible (again, mainly for the benefit of the Iranians listening in--but also in hopes that we might think twice before wiping him off the face of the Earth--the fact that Bush went ahead and hit Hussein anyway, without equipping the troops with adequate protective gear was indication enough for anyone to see what our government knew and what they did not).
And anyone aware of the most basic human behavior knew that Bush was rushing us into war, disregarding the weapons inspectors, pushing the fabricated connection between Al Qaeda and Iraq for a reason. Anyone who knows rudimentary geography knew Hussein was not an "imminent threat" the the United States.
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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Seriously...
They got no navy worth a shit, never did - and no air force to speak of.
The effective combat range of an Ak-47 is what, about 300, 400 yards at best ?
Last I heard, the Atlantic Ocean was a bit wider than that.
-F
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:Quote:Fine. Just don’t tell someone else not to serve you the same slice of pie.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
How's them apples?
And neither signy or you could have known there were no WMD, and technically still can't. An inability to find something is not evidence that it doesn't exist. If that were the case, my car keys would cease to exist every morning for about 30 minutes before work.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
Hello,
I think it's safe to say we've given the lads in charge much more than 30 minutes to find their keys and make their case.
It's okay to say "I was wrong about that WMD stuff, and so was the admin." I had to say it. I used to be gung-ho for invasion back then. I believed what I'd been told, and then it turned out to be wrong, and I looked pretty dumb for drinking the proverbial kool-aid.
The admin was wrong. I was wrong. You can be wrong, too, and still live a long, happy life where you are right about other things.
It's kind of liberating, once the truth is embraced. It's much harder to keep defending an untenable position than it is to admit your folly and move on to better bastions of belief.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Last I heard, the Atlantic Ocean was a bit wider than that.
But...but....but...
"OCEANS NO LONGER PROTECT US!!!!"
If the prefix "pro-" means "for" or "in favor of", and "con" is its opposite, and if "progress" means "pushing forward" or "improving"... then what the hell does "Congress" mean?
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Quote:What exactly is truth? That WMDs are hard to find? Weapons of mass destruction are without question among the most heavily guarded secrets of any nation. That Hussein may have lied about having WMDs (my own opinion)? Except this wasn’t always a lie, we know for a fact he did once have huge stock piles of WMDs, while claiming to have them. That CIA intelligence now claims that WMDs may not have existed? The same CIA intelligence that claimed they did exist.
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
It's kind of liberating, once the truth is embraced. It's much harder to keep defending an untenable position than it is to admit your folly and move on to better bastions of belief.
What is truth? Is Signy telling us all that she has clairvoyant powers to see the future, truth? Or is it just Signy arrogantly pumping her own ego? The truth is that people, who claim that WMDs certainly don’t and didn’t exist in Iraq, are operating on the same arrogance as those who claimed they certainly did. And for people who insisted that those who “knew” there were WMDs before the War are “lying,” it’s ironic that based on that same logic, all of those who now claim there are no WMDs must be “lying.”
So yeah, Signy can pretend all she wants that she can see the future and if the world doesn’t repent and bend to her will that we are all doomed to burn in some hell. A lot of people think like that, which is fine, but I don’t. On WMDs, the opinion that I held before the war is the same I hold now. We couldn’t know then, anymore then we can know now, whether those weapons existed or didn’t exist – but the relevant issue was always whether or not we could have confidence in some kind of non-political conclusion. Given the way the UNSC was bought and paid for by Hussein – there was no way we could have that confidence.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
If that were the case, my car keys would cease to exist every morning for about 30 minutes before work.
Perhaps they do cease to exist for 30 minutes before work.
Is it a Honda? Cause I used to have a Honda with the same problem.
I think its a translation problem with the Jap technology or perhaps its related to that guy from Heroes.
H
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
What is truth? Is Signy telling us all that she has clairvoyant powers to see the future, truth? Or is it just Signy arrogantly pumping her own ego? The truth is that people, who claim that WMDs certainly don’t and didn’t exist in Iraq, are operating on the same arrogance as those who claimed they certainly did. And for people who insisted that those who “knew” there were WMDs before the War are “lying,” it’s ironic that based on that same logic, all of those who now claim there are no WMDs must be “lying.”
I thought there was no where near enough evidence to justify a war, what do I win.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Everybody that voted for the Iraq War should be lined up and shot.
The ones that didn't vote for it, Obama & Palin, can decide who'll get the President's job over a game of one-on-one basketball. If that seems a bit unfair, then maybe they could have a dance-off.
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