Capital Offense
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UPDATED: Sunday, November 16, 2025 04:49
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:And this is why you're an idiot in these matters, Kirk, when Bush detractors say war for oil, you call it as wrong, but YOU'RE allowed to go all simple in the other direction.
Originally posted by Kirkules:
I'm sure Palin and McCain's speeches got the money rolling in to the Obama camp from China and the Axis of Evil.
You're angry & mean, just like the peeps you want in office, plus you drink too much and don't take enough vitamins.
Sorry about that one Chris. Your suspicion that my post was alcohol related is right on the mark. Although I do believe the Internet could be misused by foreign governments to influence our election, I don't believe the Dems would knowingly accept foreign money(Clinton's excepted). I actually think both Obama and Bidden are good men and only want what they think is best for our country. The thing is, I strongly feel their ideas will do great damage to our economy and the Constitutional rights I most value.
Needsmorevitaminsisall, Kirkules
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The thing is, I strongly feel their ideas will do great damage to our economy and the Constitutional rights I most value.
The thing is, I feel exactly the same way about the Republicans. And recent history has done nothing to dissuade me of that feeling.
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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Quote:What I meant was... don't believe. Don't believe the doomsday preacher and don't believe me. If you find a reason for religion, well then, that's something you've thought about and can be discussed. Everything should be questioned. Even lack of faith.
I see. So I shouldn’t be religious? So if I “open [my] eyes and ears” and discover a reason for religion, then what? It’s puzzling to me, Signym, how it is that you are so unable to hear the zealotry in your own voice.
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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal
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Originally posted by SignyM:
I will point out that if McCain-Palin win the WH we're in for four years of shrinking civil liberties, religion in the WH, and hard times... very hard times... for most Americans.
Unfortuately, if Obama/Biden win the White house, we're also in for four years of shrinking civil liberties and hard times - just different liberties and different hard times.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Quote:Kirk, considering the kinds of utterly stupid things Chris has said and which are typically said of Bush and Republicans on this board by people who agree with his side of the story, no fair-minded person could ever blame you for not retracting the comment you made – it’s actually the height of hypocrisy that Chris even considered calling you on it. But it makes you a far more believable and credible poster that you did.
Originally posted by Kirkules:
Sorry about that one Chris. Your suspicion that my post was alcohol related is right on the mark. Although I do believe the Internet could be misused by foreign governments to influence our election, I don't believe the Dems would knowingly accept foreign money(Clinton's excepted). I actually think both Obama and Bidden are good men and only want what they think is best for our country. The thing is, I strongly feel their ideas will do great damage to our economy and the Constitutional rights I most value.
And I agree with you. I think both Obama and Biden want what’s best for this country, but I don’t necessarily agree with their assessment of what is best for this country, nor do I agree with their methods of achieving it, as much as I agree with ideals of McCain and Palin.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:Such as?
Unfortuately, if Obama/Biden win the White house, we're also in for four years of shrinking civil liberties and hard times - just different liberties and different hard times.
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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal
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I meant fence in a metaphorical sense, Mikey, as I concur it's idiotic and wasteful to bother building one that long.
Siggy - I DO have concerns about Obama and the Dems concerning my second amendment rights, as well as the non-enumerated right to be left the hell alone without Gov nitpickin every damn aspect of my life "for your own good".
That's the problem with the lesser of two evils...
It's still evil!
Even if he means well, I am quite concerned about anyone who wants to make sweeping changes in a system that has seen eight years of constant non-stop damage to the checks and balances designed to limit it's impact on us, leaving them threadbare and nebulous.
From all I have seen of the guy, he seems to have good intentions, but to be blunt, that happens to be what all the roads to hell are paved with.
I worry that once he climbs into that comfy chair in the oval office, the american people will breathe a heavy sigh of relief and go back to their lives - when they damn well oughta be paying attention.
I never want a president relaxed and comfy, I want them to be afraid of us, concerned about our collective opinions, and cautious about the policies they are setting - I want em to be fucking CAREFUL, is what it is, like they were clearing a minefield, without this willy-nilly decider type shit.
And it's OUR responsibility to instill that fear and caution upon anyone sitting in the oval office....
No matter what it takes.
So yeah, I have concerns, I think the people are gonna just sigh and look away, cause gettin him there is only the start, if we forget to snap the leash on - that can and will come back on us.
Remember what happened when folk ousted the Republican congressional majority, they expected them folk to do their jobs, let the pressure off, went back to watchin TV and drinkin beer - and what, nothin, that's what.
THIS time, we damn well better not blink, but sadly, I know that we will.
We're just prolonging the inevitable anyway, just a matter of how long it takes.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Siggy - I DO have concerns about Obama and the Dems concerning my second amendment rights, as well as the non-enumerated right to be left the hell alone without Gov nitpickin every damn aspect of my life "for your own good".
That's the problem with the lesser of two evils...
It's still evil!
Bingo. My support for Obama stems from the hope that he'll do the LEAST damage to our already fragile nation. I don't expect him to save us by the grace of his hand - that task is solely in OUR hands.
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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Quote:It is? I mean, of course it is.
Originally posted by Kirkules:
Sorry about that one Chris. Your suspicion that my post was alcohol related is right on the mark.
Just funnin', you is a good sport, Kirk.
Chrisisall
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Quote:Finn...just when I think we might come to an understanding of sorts...Okay *gloves off*, you wanna talk STUPID??? Where do you get off tellin' Signy & others that they couldn't have 'known' there were no WMD? You dolt- by that reasoning ANY judgement you make based on ANY knowledge or evidence is wrong, and if it isn't- that's just coincidence! Get all black & white with ME willya??? Why, you're just a thorizine delusion I might be having in a mental ward, and NOTHING you can do or say can disprove that possibility!!!
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Kirk, considering the kinds of utterly stupid things Chris has said and which are typically said of Bush and Republicans on this board by people who agree with his side of the story, no fair-minded person could ever blame you for not retracting the comment you made – it’s actually the height of hypocrisy that Chris even considered calling you on it.
You dummy, I knew the NeoCon track record, the history of past lies & patterns of force, the oil goals, the hurried rush to attack before inspection teams could get finished- and I didn't need a SLIDE RULE or precog abilities to judge that it was bullshit, but YOU, Finn, so ensconced in the idiotic lockstep of the hawk mentality as you are, were of course BLIND to what was going on, and in your typical superiority complex-like thinking, if YOU could not have known it wasn't for real, NO ONE could have.
How's them apples?
...height of hypocrisy...hmmph...
Wanna try for Double Jeapordy where the stakes can really increase???
The really pissed off, blood pressure increased, totally serious *Coughnot* Chrisisall
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