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MY CURRENT FEELING ON THE CANDIDATES
POSTED BY: AnthonyT
UPDATED: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 20:03
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Sunday, September 7, 2008 3:19 AM
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,
Does this person, Whozit, ever contribute to discussions, or is he wholly enraptured with ears and homophobia?
--Anthony
I think Whozit provides much needed comic relief. That's a contribution in my book. At least he doesn't fill the threads with endless repeats of the same photoshopped pictures like PN.
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Sunday, September 7, 2008 3:35 AM
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
MCCAIN -
Positives: Has stated vocal support for my 2nd ammendment rights.
I'm a one issue voter when it comes to the Second Amendment. If a person doesn't believe in protecting my Constitutional rights, they are disqualified as far as I'm concerned.
"Barack Obama's Ten Point Plan to 'Change' the Second Amendment"
1. Ban use of firearms for home defense.
2. Pass Federal laws eliminating your Right -to Carry.
3. Ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.
4. Close down 90% of the gun shops in America.
5. Ban rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.
6. Increase federal taxes on guns and ammunition by 500%
7. RESTORE VOTING RIGHTS FOR FIVE MILLION CRIMINALS INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF USING A GUN TO COMMIT A VIOLENT CRIME.
8. Expand the Clinton semi-auto ban to include millions more firearms.
9. Mandate a government issued license to purchase a firearm.
10. Appoint judges to the U. S. Supreme Court and Federal judiciary who share his views on the Second Amendment.
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Sunday, September 7, 2008 3:43 AM
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Originally posted by Kirkules:Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
MCCAIN -
Positives: Has stated vocal support for my 2nd ammendment rights.
I'm a one issue voter when it comes to the Second Amendment. If a person doesn't believe in protecting my Constitutional rights, they are disqualified as far as I'm concerned.
"Barack Obama's Ten Point Plan to 'Change' the Second Amendment"
1. Ban use of firearms for home defense.
2. Pass Federal laws eliminating your Right -to Carry.
3. Ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.
4. Close down 90% of the gun shops in America.
5. Ban rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.
6. Increase federal taxes on guns and ammunition by 500%
7. RESTORE VOTING RIGHTS FOR FIVE MILLION CRIMINALS INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF USING A GUN TO COMMIT A VIOLENT CRIME.
8. Expand the Clinton semi-auto ban to include millions more firearms.
9. Mandate a government issued license to purchase a firearm.
10. Appoint judges to the U. S. Supreme Court and Federal judiciary who share his views on the Second Amendment.
looks like a plan to me
I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
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“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi
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Monday, September 8, 2008 1:22 AM
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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:Quote:
Originally posted by Kirkules:Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
MCCAIN -
Positives: Has stated vocal support for my 2nd ammendment rights.
I'm a one issue voter when it comes to the Second Amendment. If a person doesn't believe in protecting my Constitutional rights, they are disqualified as far as I'm concerned.
"Barack Obama's Ten Point Plan to 'Change' the Second Amendment"
1. Ban use of firearms for home defense.
2. Pass Federal laws eliminating your Right -to Carry.
3. Ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.
4. Close down 90% of the gun shops in America.
5. Ban rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.
6. Increase federal taxes on guns and ammunition by 500%
7. RESTORE VOTING RIGHTS FOR FIVE MILLION CRIMINALS INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF USING A GUN TO COMMIT A VIOLENT CRIME.
8. Expand the Clinton semi-auto ban to include millions more firearms.
9. Mandate a government issued license to purchase a firearm.
10. Appoint judges to the U. S. Supreme Court and Federal judiciary who share his views on the Second Amendment.
looks like a plan to me
So you were lying in the other thread when you said
"I have no problem with people owning guns responsibly. I DO have a problem with people who have no idea what it is they are citing for the affirmation of their right to own guns".
Typical gun grabbing liberal. But you forgot that your supposed to get your guy elected before you show your true colors. Not that you or Obama are fooling anyone with your lies.
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Monday, September 8, 2008 1:33 AM
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Originally posted by Kirkules:
So you were lying in the other thread when you said
"I have no problem with people owning guns responsibly. I DO have a problem with people who have no idea what it is they are citing for the affirmation of their right to own guns".
Typical gun grabbing liberal. But you forgot that your supposed to get your guy elected before you show your true colors. Not that you or Obama are fooling anyone with your lies.
Ok Mr Deliberately Obtuse - the operative word in that sentence was "responsibly".
Why lie to fools?
I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
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“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi
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Monday, September 8, 2008 1:45 AM
Hello,
What would responsible gun ownership and use look like?
Thanks,
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Monday, September 8, 2008 1:52 AM
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Originally posted by Kirkules:Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
MCCAIN -
Positives: Has stated vocal support for my 2nd ammendment rights.
I'm a one issue voter when it comes to the Second Amendment. If a person doesn't believe in protecting my Constitutional rights, they are disqualified as far as I'm concerned.
"Barack Obama's Ten Point Plan to 'Change' the Second Amendment"
1. Ban use of firearms for home defense.
2. Pass Federal laws eliminating your Right -to Carry.
3. Ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.
4. Close down 90% of the gun shops in America.
5. Ban rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.
6. Increase federal taxes on guns and ammunition by 500%
7. RESTORE VOTING RIGHTS FOR FIVE MILLION CRIMINALS INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF USING A GUN TO COMMIT A VIOLENT CRIME.
8. Expand the Clinton semi-auto ban to include millions more firearms.
9. Mandate a government issued license to purchase a firearm.
10. Appoint judges to the U. S. Supreme Court and Federal judiciary who share his views on the Second Amendment.
I'd like to see the source for these allegations. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'd like some context.
You should also note that McCain and Lieberman put their names on an anti-gun bill that would have had the effect of doing most - if not all - of the things you're worried about Obama doing.
And you might note that earlier this year, an expanded version of the Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) was introduced into the U.S. House of Representatives - sponsored by four REPUBLICAN Congressmen.
Looks like gun enthusiasts may well be Screwed In '08.
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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Monday, September 8, 2008 1:56 AM
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What would responsible gun ownership and use look like?
Not buying illegal or illegally-modifed weapons from unscrupulous individuals.
Having proper training in gun use and safety.
Shooting at gun ranges. NOT shooting at road signs. :)
Keeping guns and ammo out of the hands of kids, at least without proper adult supervision.
Not drinking and shooting. Not doing drugs and shooting.
Not waving your guns around at a party.
Most of this is common-sense stuff. Do you ever wonder why they call it "common sense" when it seems so damn rare?
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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Monday, September 8, 2008 2:11 AM
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Originally posted by Kwicko:Quote:
Originally posted by Kirkules:Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
MCCAIN -
Positives: Has stated vocal support for my 2nd ammendment rights.
I'm a one issue voter when it comes to the Second Amendment. If a person doesn't believe in protecting my Constitutional rights, they are disqualified as far as I'm concerned.
"Barack Obama's Ten Point Plan to 'Change' the Second Amendment"
1. Ban use of firearms for home defense.
2. Pass Federal laws eliminating your Right -to Carry.
3. Ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.
4. Close down 90% of the gun shops in America.
5. Ban rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.
6. Increase federal taxes on guns and ammunition by 500%
7. RESTORE VOTING RIGHTS FOR FIVE MILLION CRIMINALS INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF USING A GUN TO COMMIT A VIOLENT CRIME.
8. Expand the Clinton semi-auto ban to include millions more firearms.
9. Mandate a government issued license to purchase a firearm.
10. Appoint judges to the U. S. Supreme Court and Federal judiciary who share his views on the Second Amendment.
I'd like to see the source for these allegations. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'd like some context.
You should also note that McCain and Lieberman put their names on an anti-gun bill that would have had the effect of doing most - if not all - of the things you're worried about Obama doing.
And you might note that earlier this year, an expanded version of the Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) was introduced into the U.S. House of Representatives - sponsored by four REPUBLICAN Congressmen.
Looks like gun enthusiasts may well be Screwed In '08.
Mike
"In 1996 Obama filled out a candidate questionnaire in which he indicated full-throated support for a ban on 'The manufacture, sale and possession of handguns'".
In 1999 while running for the US house seat he called for a "500 percent increase in taxes on firearms and ammunition.".
In 2003 Obama voted for a bill in the Illinois Senate which was a ban on "assault rifles".
The others are readily available on the Internet. A few of these Obama would dispute, but douments have been found that show them all to be true.
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Monday, September 8, 2008 2:20 AM
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Originally posted by Kirkules:
"In 1996 Obama filled out a candidate questionnaire in which he indicated full-throated support for a ban on 'The manufacture, sale and possession of handguns'".
So what? I fully and completely support a woman's right to have an abortion - doesn't mean I would have one.
I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
FORSAKEN original
“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi
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