South Ossetia: Defense against ethnic cleansing, or invasion? (Turns out, Georgia fired missiles first. it was self defense)
POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Sunday, August 23, 2026 15:28
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Quote:F**K YOU, man!! That was totally uncalled-for!!! You wanna FIGHT??? Name the place, pal, just name it, and I'll be there to kick you gorram ASS!!!!
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
You are your own best friend.
*tries not to snicker*
Really, uh, angry Chrisisall
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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
I can't help it if you're uneducable.
I'm rubber and you're glue.
BURN!!!!
Chrisisall
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What you don't seem to get is that it is all moot at this point.
WHO CARES HOW OR WHY THE INVASION TOOK PLACE, IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT IT TOOK PLACE.
It doesn't change the fact that it took place - and it doesn't change the fact that the Republicans and this administration got it 100% wrong, time after time after time - yet they still want us to give them the benefit of the doubt.
I don't have a problem with people shooting themselves in the foot now and again. I have a problem when, after doing so, they stop to reload!
As for 5-year-olds and profanity - neither are okay in my view. Are you actually letting your 5-year-old check in here in RWED? You should be ashamed!
'Course, that would explain most of your posts...
Mike
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Quote:But if we know HOW and WHY we screwed up, maybe we won't make that mistake again. It's all part of learning... from history, if you can't learn from others. Like I said: I can't help it if you're undeducable.
WHO CARES HOW OR WHY THE INVASION TOOK PLACE, IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT IT TOOK PLACE
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It's a wise man who learns from the mistakes of others.
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Gonna re-post this for you, Finn.
Quote:You yourself said
Right. After 12 years of negotiation, 17 Chapter 7 Resolutions, and Sanctions that solved no other problems but the lives of 1.5 million people - then I was ready to just jump straight into war. You’re a little bit dumb, aren’t you?- Finn
Except... that it DID work. Saddam's WMD were no more. And when that was about to be validated, our Admin cut the process short. And all YOU can seem to do, rather than admit that you misjudged the situation, is to defend an unnecessary war ad infinitum ad nauseum.
Which is consistent with your posts on wars in general. There isn't a war or intervention (of ours) that you haven't defended at one point or another, including supplying the Taliban and ObL with arms, Vietnam, Panama, Grenada etc. It doesn't matter what the putative cause, it's all good. Some people might agree with your preference for war, and others disagree, but your pro-war bias is obvious to many people - but not you. I'm not saying you're a hypocrite. You don't KNOW what you think.
Quote:How about... collateral damage? Innocent lives lost?
There really can never NOT be a good reason to pound on a ruthless dictator.
You see, there are several ways I can think of to defang ruthless tyrants. But they don't involve "pounding on" people. And quite honestly, your major motivation seems to be pounding on people.
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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal
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Originally posted by SignyM:
But if you know HOW and WHY we screwed up, maybe we won't make that mistake again. It's all part of learning... from history, if you can't learn from others. Like I said: I can't help it if you're undeducable.
Please tell me which sovereign nation I want to occupy.
Please tell me how questioning your position means that I am uneducable.
Please tell me why we do not crucify people anymore without you constantly reminding us how the first "major" one went.
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I was responding to your statement, which basically went... "Why do we care how and why we got into this mess?" I said nothing at all about you wanting to occupy nations (or not), or you "questioning" my position (because in that statment, you weren't), or crucifixtion (how does THAT relate???). But it DOES say something about learning from history... or not, as the case may be.
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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal
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Quote:I’m not sure what “inherent unwillingness” you’re talking about. The US and the UK were the principle members backing enforcement of resolutions. If weapon inspections did work, it is largely because the US and the UK kept the heat on the UN. It was principally France and Russia who procrastinated, obfuscated and confused the issue to protect their oil contracts and weapons’ sales in Iraq.
Originally posted by Kwicko:
And, as you yourself have pointed out, 12 years and 17 resolutions that were never enforced because of the UN's inherent evilness and corruption, and the US's inherent unwillingness to back UN enforcement... but let's never let that stop us from blaming the UN for what we wouldn't demand they do!
Quote:Yeah, well the 1.5 million was the result of several years of oppression, not a single event, so it makes since that it would go through iterations.
Originally posted by Kwicko:
As for your "1.5 million" figure - I don't buy it. That number has gone up and up and up, every time it gets tossed out there. First it was 120,000; then it was 140,000 - and after only a few short iterations, it's now all the way up to 1.5 million! Keep going; before you know it, Saddam will have killed more of his own people than Stalin and Hitler combined.
Quote:A lazy typer. My typos and your lack of understanding of the history behind the Iraq war are hardly comparable.
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Could be... could be. Of course, that loses a little of its intended sting when it's coming from the guy who can't tell the difference between "then" and "than", "their", "there" and "they're", "your", "you're" and "yore", and "weather" and "whether"...
So if I'm a "little bit dumb" (congrats on getting that silent "b" in the right place!), where does that leave you? More than a little, I'd wager...
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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I see you've avoided answering substantive questions. So let's go with something simple:
Why do you keep saying that UN sanctions "didn't solve anything", when they clearly did? Saddam had, in fact, destroyed his WMD. He had no WMD deployed or stockpiled (as Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld et al kept saying). He wasn't producing them. He didn't have a "program".
But you keep restating your false premise over and over again. As far as I can tell, that means one of two things:
1) You are incapable of incorporating newly acquired facts into your "reality", or...
2) You have a different set of goals aside from WMD, and therefore define success differently.
Now, I'm assuming that you're not delusional, and you ARE capable of appreciating and incorporating novel information into your worldview, even if it contradicts previously-held ideas. So... what's the deal?
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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal
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