South Ossetia: Defense against ethnic cleansing, or invasion? (Turns out, Georgia fired missiles first. it was self defense)
POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Sunday, August 23, 2026 15:28
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I guess Finn must be busy.
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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal
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Originally posted by SignyM:
I guess Finn must be busy.
Or maybe he didn't see your last post.
You be sure to keep needlessly bumping this thread until you get what you want m'kay.
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Quote:Indeed, and the Bush administrations excuse for invading Iraq was pretty similar to Hitler's excuse for invading Russia. That's the problem with pre-emptive strikes.
Originally posted by Foster:
You know that the Russian excuse is the same one that Hitler used to invade Poland back in the day.
They were "German" people living in Poland and so he was just protecting them from genocide and discrimination. Answer for the world "well if they are your people and your protecting them then it is OK to invade"
It is all just a little bit of history repeating
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Quote:I was paying close attention back then too, and what I remember was a complete lack of faith in a system that had been so heavily corrupted over the last 12 years that it was deemed a waste of time, money and credibility to spend any time at all on it. And quite frankly, I agreed then and given the same 12 years of information, I would still agree.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
I was paying close attention back then, and I fully remember the rush to invade before all the evidence was in.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:So, how is it that MY estimation that we shouldn't invade, that they had no WMD, that we'd be there for YEARS & YEARS has turned out to be correct? Why was your evaluation of the same info I had at my disposal so differently digested?
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
And quite frankly, I agreed then and given the same 12 years of information, I would still agree.
Did I just make a 'good wild guess'?
Should I be working at the Pentagon? I think not- I'm sure they knew at least what I knew, & a great deal more. As the Emperor said, it's all proceeding according to plan- I just saw into parts of it where you trusted the rhetoric, as far as I can tell.
The self-confident Chrisisall
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Quote:Like most anti-war types you where willing to trust the ruthless dictator.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
So, how is it that MY estimation that we shouldn't invade, that they had no WMD, that we'd be there for YEARS & YEARS has turned out to be correct? Why was your evaluation of the same info I had at my disposal so differently digested?
Did I just make a 'good wild guess'?
And you didn’t know any more then I did that there were or weren’t WMD’s and everyone knew we would be there for a long time. The issue wasn’t as much about disarming Hussein, as much as it was about removing the UNSC from his pocket.Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:Chrisisall's Magic 8-Ball says:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
The issue wasn’t as much about disarming Hussein, as much as it was about removing the UNSC from his pocket.
Reply hazy, try again
The WHOLE push behind the invasion was that he had ties to Al Qaeda & viable WMD in his country, both of which have proven untrue. At least, those were the reasons we were told.
So, we're back to you being okay that they lied to you, or you're okay with an administration that starts wars on faulty, incomplete evidence, or you just like to see ruthless dictators pounded on no matter what the reason.
Listen to what you type, Finn...we removed the UNSC from his pocket by INVADING HIS COUNTRY???
Were you just typing fast or something??
EDIT: plus, Re: my foreknowledge of history- you could have pulled a Spock and called it 'gifted insight' or something
isall
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FINN
Quote:Who said Trust but verify? I dunno... I can't seem to remember. Must be getting Alzheimer's or something.
Like most anti-war types you where (sic) willing to trust the ruthless dictator
Anyhoo.... YOUR problem is, you went on broad assumptions: The UN is corrupt and UNMOVIC is just window-dressing. Unlike you, I tried to find out what was REALLY going on. Verifying. You didn't. You screwed up because you heard what you wanted to hear and didn't go any further.
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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal
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Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Who said Trust but verify?
The Magic 8-Ball?
Hope ya don't mind my latchin' onto that Signy, I know it's your thing, but it's so damn funny...I'll stop using it now.
Chrisisall
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO!
Don't stop!
YOU'RE too d*mn funny!
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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal
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