South Ossetia: Defense against ethnic cleansing, or invasion? (Turns out, Georgia fired missiles first. it was self defense)
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How can we help fix Iraq? How do we help stabilize the country? How do we help to rebuild people's lives?
Those are questions that I was asking almost seven years ago. You know what the answer I got was? "We won't need to - the Iraqis will greet us as liberators, and oil profits will fund the reconstruction." It's no truer now than it was then, and I called bullshit on it then as I do now.
What do *I* do about it now? Nothing. *I* didn't break it - you did. You and your right-wing Neo-con worthless asshole brethren. I warned you, you didn't listen, and you can take it all and shove it straight up your ass now for all I care. I told you it would be a monumental waste of human lives, both American and Iraqi, and I was told it wouldn't cost more than a few lives at the most, and the blood is squarely on YOUR hands now, because this is exactly what you wanted and what you begged for, and you fucking well deserve it.
I'm sick to fucking death of the righties whinging about how "no one could have foreseen this turn of events in Iraq" - when there were several million of us who foresaw it EXACTLY as it's come to pass, and who were denounced by that very administration as being less than American in our viewpoints. Now these same right-wing assholes want us to sign off on an Iranian campaign, and they assure us that nothing could possibly go wrong this time. Well, fuck them, and fuck you for supporting them.
Mike
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Mike, lol, don't feel the need to tread so lightly here, just let 'em have it, lol.
isall
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no one's sayin' just leave them to twist
Incorrect.
I want us out, now, and to hell with what they think of it (they'd probably cheer tho) cause we need to worry about our own issues before we start trying to conquer the world under the thin veneer of policing it - I am totally with Mikey on this, we TOLD you how this would go, chapter and verse, and now y'all wanna compound the mistake doing something even more stupid (Iran) from an even weaker position ?
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Oh, and is it just me, or has no one ELSE ever sat and thought about the economic impact of removing that many american workers from this economy and paying them (badly) from the tax coffers for a very extended period of time ?
Just sayin, no one else seems to have connected the dots on that one, either.
Out, Now.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Quote:I stand corrected.
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:Quote:
no one's sayin' just leave them to twist
Incorrect.
What Frem? You wanna just tell the Iraqis "We got rid of Saddam, the rest is up to you- best of luck" ?
We need to be their Nanny State Protector, according to the Conservatives on this board!
Mischievous Chrisisall
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Quote:And what about your interest in the lives of those killed by ruthless dictators in Rwanda? Did you support war to deal with those ruthless dictators? What about Darfur? Do you support war to deal with those ruthless dictators? Obviously we know that you were willing to leave the Iraqis to the whim of that ruthless dictator since you don’t feel the Iraq war was worth the investment. You should be a little more careful with your self-righteous outbursts because these are your principles too.
Originally posted by Kwicko:
So, at long last, there's your "principled" moral stand - We'll do it, if it's worth the investment. That's your entire basis for the worth of a human life, is it? It certainly comes across as such.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Originally posted by Foster:
You know that the Russian excuse is the same one that Hitler used to invade Poland back in the day.
They were "German" people living in Poland and so he was just protecting them from genocide and discrimination. Answer for the world "well if they are your people and your protecting them then it is OK to invade"
It is all just a little bit of history repeating
and it is the same one NATO used in Kosavo
Lets party like its 1939
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Quote:Nearly 60% of the American Governments budget is spent on the Military in various guises. Lots of it is hidden under the Department of Energy Budget, as the money spent on providing the US Military with energy.
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Oh, and is it just me, or has no one ELSE ever sat and thought about the economic impact of removing that many american workers from this economy and paying them (badly) from the tax coffers for a very extended period of time ?
The Military is the biggest US industry.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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And U.S. defense spending accounts for almost HALF of all the military expenditure for the entire world, according to the Government Accounting Office.
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More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Quote:Finn, you're making the mistake that war is the best way to deal with dictators. That's a false dilemna.
And what about your interest in the lives of those killed by ruthless dictators in Rwanda? Did you support war to deal with those ruthless dictators? What about Darfur? Do you support war to deal with those ruthless dictators?
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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal
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