Were we left-leanin' peeps and Libertarians spoiled by the last quarter of the 20th Century?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Wednesday, August 19, 2026 00:41
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That makes three of us... 
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GEEZER Except that
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Corporations are unelected bodies with an internal hierarchy; their purpose is to exert control over the social and economic life of their respective areas.
BTW- capitalism inevitably devolves to monopolism due to economies of scale, and to corporatism due to the concentration of power. I agree with Chris: capitalism is a train don't come.
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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal
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I didn't read chrisisalls statment you talk about Signy, but without having read the context, "Capitalism is a train don't come", taken only on it's face value is a very factual statement to me.
It is impossible to say that Capitalism is bad because on the basis of ideals, who wouldn't want to live in a society where those who worked hard and reached their goals were rewarded for it?
Unfortunately, that's not the world we live in, is it? It is impossible to attack capitalism via using the current system as an example for why it is evil. What we've been lead to believe is capitalism all of our lives is tightly regulated and controlled bastardized version of capitalism. It'd be like kids today calling the Jonas Brothers classic rock when they're middle aged.
The more you know.....
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But yeah... I was a dumb kid who read a bunch of crap until I was about 23 and started reading anything of substance.
You 'n' me both... But the important thing is that you ARE reading and learning!
Mike
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Originally posted by SignyM:
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GEEZER Except thatQuote:
Corporations are unelected bodies with an internal hierarchy; their purpose is to exert control over the social and economic life of their respective areas.
Not quite sure what you're referring to here.
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BTW- capitalism inevitably devolves to monopolism due to economies of scale...
WHich is why we all drive one brand of car, and can only get burgers at McDucks, right?
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Quote:I was referring to this little gem:
Not quite sure what you're referring to here.
Quote:A lot? No. And different in critical aspects.
Corporatism, practiced by both the Italian Fascists and German National Socialists, seems to embody a lot of the same ideals as the Cooperatives you frequently espouse.
BTW- Talking about capitalism (communism, or any number of isms) is like talking about religion. When pointing to problems that religions often engender (intolerance, war, ignorance, authoritarianism etc.) people will say... "Well yeah, but if you take away the greed, corruption, narrow-mindedness, and authoritarianism" (in other words, all the frailties human systems are heir to) "and just look at the idea behind it, it's great!"
*snicker*
I have yet to see capitalism. It's as much a fantasy as communism.
AFA monopolies are concerned, large corporations make up a larger part of the economy than ever before. Walmart didn't exist 50 years ago. And you too can buy a Ford Lincoln Mercury Mazda Volvo
http://www.ford.com/about-ford/company-information
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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal
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So, Geezer- no comments?
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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal
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Originally posted by SignyM:
So, Geezer- no comments?
Not yet. Sorry if it damages your ego, I don't sit in front of the computer 24/7 waiting to respond to your posts.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Neither do I. I just wanted to make sure you saw the post.
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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
You 'n' me both... But the important thing is that you ARE reading and learning!
True that...
My next project is Sun Tzu's "The Art of War"...... or what I call "The Art of War 2.0". (It's going to be my second attempt at it.
)Tupac Shakur (Who I think the world of, even though I won't listen to any of the misogynistic, arrogant, narcissistic, white hating trite CRap that's played on the radio or MTV today) read it when he was 24. I was only 21 when I tried it the first time, but I think I'm a bit more mature now and ready to take it on.
That being said, I think you should listen to some of Tupac's work if you haven't. Sure, he's got the singles that sell the records like any other produced artist, but his lyrics are deep and something you can really move your feet to. I was a white suburbanite kid and I related a lot to what he had to say. Feels funny that on Sunday I'll be 4 years older than when he died.
RIP my man. Hope you're in a better place now laughing at all of us. I ain't got 40's, but I'd pour out a MGD for ya now but my landlord would probably have a problem with a puddle of beer on the floor when I leave.
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