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Were we left-leanin' peeps and Libertarians spoiled by the last quarter of the 20th Century?

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Sunday, August 17, 2008 1:42 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
Well, Chris, Is All

The thing is I think the really evil people DID take over. I'm not talking about Bush - he's just the brain-dead puppet they use to put a face on the machine - but Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice et al.



And just think. If the majority of the people agree with you, in a few months all those evil folks will be out of a job.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Sunday, August 17, 2008 2:32 AM

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The Left prizes the individual's rights? What you been smokin', son? The Left prizes the collective good (as defined by the Left), and is willing to sacrifice the rights of individuals for the supposed good of the whole. Hence, for example, the "Although you're law-abiding, we demand that you give up your right to own firearms on the off chance it might keep a criminal from using one." type retoric. The Left want the government to "take care" of us, and improve our lives (using their image of 'improved') whether we want to be taken care of and improved or not.



Actually, with the sole exception of the Second Amendment issue, this sounds like the playbook the "new right" has been going off for at least the last eight years. So the neo-cons are really just the old left?




Mike

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Sunday, August 17, 2008 6:28 AM

I still favor the French solution.

A freakin downright purge, drag them from their holes and string em up, a reign of terror that will put even the WORD "Neocon" in the same lexicon as "Nazi" - to where no decent human being will ever associate themselves with it again.

Be kinda theraputic, when ya think about it.

Of course, humans being humans, it wouldn't really happen that way and there would be way too much collateral damage to innocents from me to *really* want that to happen....

But a fellow can dream, can't he ?

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Sunday, August 17, 2008 2:43 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:

The Left prizes the individual's rights? What you been smokin', son? The Left prizes the collective good (as defined by the Left), and is willing to sacrifice the rights of individuals for the supposed good of the whole.

What you are describing is the LOONEY left fringe, and funnily enough, the NeoCon agenda- see, the crazies meet at that part in the circle.

Libertarian: A liberal or Conservative who is in their right mind.

Independentisall

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Sunday, August 17, 2008 3:16 PM

If "we" (American individuals) are the white blood cells and immune components of our political health, guarding the body politic against corruption and tyranny then....

We're hosed, man.

Gimme another six-pack and let me watch them funny Superbowl commercials on my big screen.

*burp*

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Sunday, August 17, 2008 3:20 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

Gimme another six-pack and let me watch them funny Superbowl commercials on my big screen.


Let us eat cake....

The Somnambulist publicisall

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Sunday, August 17, 2008 4:29 PM

See we're better'n the Roman plebians. Not only do we have cake, we have circuses in our own homes, and beer.

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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal

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Sunday, August 17, 2008 4:45 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
See we're better'n the Roman plebians. Not only do we have cake, we have circuses in our own homes, and beer.


Beer...
Throw me to the lions- just do it after happy hour...

*hic*isall

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Monday, August 18, 2008 1:42 PM

Fred,

Come on! Can you honestly say that 'neocons" are any worse than Liberals?

Both are extremes of their particular belief-branch. Both would bring this country to its knees.

I say, string both Liberals and Ultra-Righ-wingers up from the same tree. They both deserve it for what they've done.

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Monday, August 18, 2008 2:20 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
I still favor the French solution.

A freakin downright purge, drag them from their holes and string em up, a reign of terror that will put even the WORD "Neocon" in the same lexicon as "Nazi" - to where no decent human being will ever associate themselves with it again.

Be kinda theraputic, when ya think about it.



Yep. And look at the wonderful results. The Terror, where anyone and everyone could be denounced and chopped. Massive government control of every phase of life. Napoleon, the classic strongman savior who got the country into any number of costly and ultimately futile imperialist wars. An eventual return to monarchy.

I agree that it might be a momentary rush to string the bastards up rather than vote them out, but history shows that such fun generally comes at a high cost.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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