McCain is a bonehead.
POSTED BY: Fremdfirma
UPDATED: Saturday, August 16, 2008 22:05
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Originally posted by Sickdude:
Unless I'm mistaken, hasn't the actual reactor that had the problem been inactive ever since the accident? I think they've only been running the other reactors in the last thirty years.
TMI-2, the broken one, has had its core removed and been sealed in various stages of cleanup since the 1979 accident.
TMI-1, the not broken one, was restarted in 1985 and that reactor has been going strong ever since.
The model of plant is still in general use, howver between 51 plants of that model were cancelled in various stages of construction between 1980 and '84. TMI will lose its operator's license in 2014 and there is presently nothing that is available to fill the gap.
H
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Sickdude, I've found from living here that Michiganders as a whole, in spite of being more a blue state, are a fairly conservative bunch and tend to hold a grudge about serious screwups like that - especially since the UAW, which holds this state in claws of iron, didn't want the damn thing here to begin with.
Ergo, the locals ANYWHERE near Detroit would be kind of iffy about something like this, you'd have to go much further north if you wanted to get any interest in a proposal of this nature, and to give such a speech right where it nearly went south would evidence a total ignorance of just how LONG your typical Michigander can hold a grudge like that.
It's not that it takes us a thiry years to make up our minds, it's that we're so fuckin stubborn it takes fifty to change our opinion.
That's not always a benefit, of course, given the auto industries reluctance to produce small high efficiency cars, but it's the nature of people here to poke skeptically at something for many years before accepting it, and once burned, regard it with skepticism forever.
It was a really bad idea politically for him to make that speech there, and he shoulda known that, doesn't he have flunkies supposed to tell him shit like this ?
-Frem
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
...doesn't he have flunkies supposed to tell him shit like this ?
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
Nope - they're busy trying to explain to him all those troubles on the Iraq-Pakistan border. You know, the ones Al Qaeda is causing after being trained by the Iranians.
Mike
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You're rite, we do'nt need any more Nuke Plants. As Barry Obama (B.O.) said, all we have to do to save energy is to keep our tires inflated, and stick to a diet high in fiber. 
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Guess you must've missed it when your boy McSame came out and said that Obama was right. See, McLame was against Obama's plan before he was for it.
Flippin'andfloppin'isall
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He's going to be the President, regardless.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Eyewitness account - I was standing in the crowd, trying not to laugh.
Okay. Thought you were pretty much a Charm City guy. Didn't know you roamed so far afield. Since back when I was working with NORML I've noticed that pretty much everyone at a non-scripted political event has that WTF look a good bit of the time. Only when you get the true believers to pack the crowd do you get nothing but nods and smiles.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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I've noticed that pretty much everyone at a non-scripted political event has that WTF look a good bit of the time.
Too bloody true, normal folk tend to wonder what planet these guys are from when they start talking... but man, you could FEEL the reaction come on, it was like someone shilling for the beef industry at a vegetarian convention, nobody walked out, but you could feel the suppressed hostility.
As for the other, I work mostly in Detroit, down around cass, or over in the county in some of the rougher neighborhoods cause I can relate to those folk in a way that keeps me from putting up the victim flag, so when you need a driver to pick up down there I get top choice on the list.
I am originally from Baltimore, the nasty little region known to BCPD as "Barrytown" or Crooklyn amongst the locals - it's not a real nice place, and polluted as hell besides due to NIMBY* and all the chem plants, landfills and incinerators being just upwind of the place.
And then by some stroke of fortune wind up living in some podunk burg you can literally spit across between Detroit and Ann Arbor, where three vandalisms constitutes a "crime wave", meh.
Worse, having taken an effective stand against local corruption, am on the ballot as a replacement city council member in our impending recall election cause enough locals PUT me there without so much as askin me, cause they couldn't think of a better roadblock against corruption and ambition...
(I'll note they filed me as an Independant, hehe)
I am highly amused by this, I mean, how crackpot does your city council have to be when the locals are attempting to elect a downright Anarchist to it ?
This is gonna be... interesting.
-Frem
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I am highly amused by this, I mean, how crackpot does your city council have to be when the locals are attempting to elect a downright Anarchist to it ?
This is gonna be... interesting.
It sounds to me like they drafted EXACTLY the right person for the job - one who doesn't want it, CAN do it better than anyone they've got currently, and isn't beholden to anyone but his own clear conscience. I hope you win, and I hope you do an amazing job at it.
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
enough locals PUT me there without so much as askin me, cause they couldn't think of a better roadblock against corruption and ambition...
Congrats on the confidence peeps have in you, Frem.
I'd vote for yaisall
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