Firefly Episode Discussions

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POSTED BY: jewelstaitefan
UPDATED: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 13:51
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Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:55 PM

Yeh...it’s all good, the Pilot, the Series, the BDM, and now the comics, which are a must read if you are writing and waxing in this verse (even if they are a retro fit), and Mal and Inara have tea without fighting and he now knows she's ...ahh...I can't write it... I may start crying. It’s so sad.

There goes my favorite character… damn you, Joss!

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Friday, July 11, 2008 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by Platonist:

I think fans are uncomfortable with the BDM because Joss used the opportunity to change the verse and people generally don't like change because they view it as something negative. And the changes are abrupt because the story was originally to take place over 2 years, not a week. They become insecure on how they view and understand the verse.



Except that I saw the bdm before I saw the series and almost didn't buy the series as a consequence.

In the end, I bought Firefly because I thought Serenity was good enough for another go when I found the series on sale at 50% off. If I hadn't been able to pick it up cheaply, I may not have bothered.

I get considerably more out of the bdm knowing the series but it isn't as good. It lacks the richness of all the relationships, stripping events down to an action story and those relationships which can be fitted into that plot, thus: Book, and his whole thematic relationship with Mal - gone; the big sister/little sister relationship Inara and Kaylee shared - gone; the strong contrasting personalities of Mal and Inara trying to work out how to love each other without sidelining themselves - sidelined. There's more besides but I think you get my point.

To paraphrase Joss, Firefly was about 9 people living in the uncaring vastness of space; Serentiy was about a bunch of heroes (admittedly somewhat unlikely but we all love the underdog) standing up for what is right and winning in the final reel.

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Monday, July 14, 2008 5:55 AM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
I had forgotten to point out that I understood that Joss had FILMed every episode.
How fitting for a big screening of a movie that Fox refused to broadcast until after cancellation.
Pilot won an Emmy.
Did BDM win any awards?



I noticed Summer Glau won her first Saturn for Serenity.
Plus it won Best SciFi movie of all time by SFX magazine.

Apparently current votes are 13 for Pilot Serenity, 2 for BDM Serenity. Those programmers at Fox are geniuses, for sure.

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Thursday, September 4, 2008 9:30 PM

Ahhh, it's hard to compare the two because films work differently from TV.

I would say that BDF (i hate the word 'movie') is just about as perfect a film as you can get.

The pilot... it was never a film, so it's set up differently. It's introducing people slowly and ending on much more of a "..." than a "." If you catch my drift?

Argh... i'm going to go with the film. Because in the space of 2 hours, it plays with me and my emotions much more than the pilot does in that time.

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Thursday, September 4, 2008 9:36 PM

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Originally posted by wytchcroft:

am i the only one who thinks the BDM is gorram funny too?


It's hi-larious in spots. It's my pick as well.

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Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by WendyPops:
Ahhh, it's hard to compare the two because films work differently from TV.



True. Completely different medium.

(though it's always nice to catch episodes on a big screen!:))

same with the comics.

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Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:26 PM

when it comes down to any episode up against the movie, the episode always wins. The series was so much better than the movie, I'm glad we got the movie, but it didn't stand up at all to the series.

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Friday, September 12, 2008 8:56 AM

Current votes seem to be 14 for Pilot Serenity and 3 for BDM Serenity.

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Friday, September 12, 2008 2:31 PM

Sorry, but I vote for the pilot as well.

Different mediums aside, I just liked it better.

I've said it before, if the BDM is truer (is that even a word?) to Joss's original vision, then my hatred for Fox aside, I liked their watered down version better.

Bear in mind I was not a pre-exsisting Joss fan before Firefly and as such had no pre-conceived notions on how he did things.

While I LOVE Firefly and by extention the BDM, I am still not a Joss fanatic. To put it in perspective, I liked the Buffy movie not the series, but that's a whole 'nother arguement...

That said, I didn't hate the BDM, just didn't like it as much.

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Friday, September 12, 2008 3:58 PM

Has to be the pilot for me, defining TV at its very best.

Couldn't tell you how many times I have watched it but I tend to notice new things every now and again.



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