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PIRATECAT

Friday, September 12, 2008 4:02 PM

The pilot. The BDM. NO the pilot. No the BDM. Ok let me get back on that.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

FIREFLY151

Friday, September 12, 2008 4:40 PM

This is a great thread!

I expected people to choose the BDM, only because I thought that was better. But I can see now why people love the pilot even more. Still, majority aside, I'm going with the BDM.

I saw the movie before the series (well actually I saw the very end of Ariel first), and I loved it. It was because of the movie that I wanted to see the TV show. But that doesn't make the movie better.

What makes the movie better is the fact that it's a story in one. On its own, the pilot is just a beginning. It doesn't have a real ending, while the movie has its own complete story. True, the pilot focuses on many characters, but that's part of being a pilot. The movie has to focus on the story, which means less characters get a focus, but instead it develops a more steady, interesting storyline. The movie focused on what I was most interested in in the series - the Alliance and River. I feel a little guilty for prefering the futuristic episodes of Firefly, but that's just me. Thanbkfully, the BDM had lots of that, the special effects, tech and future ideas were great. And even better, it had a balance. There was still a bar fight, 'country town' planets and some punches thrown. Just on a bigger scale.

Yes, Book's death was terrible. It was completely unnecessary, not everyone on Haven had to die. Maybe they did, to give the story those emotional effects, but Book? It was unfair. Wash, on the other hand... Very often I read about Firefly fans complaining of Wash's death. I, however, don't mind it (but yes, of course, I'm sad about it). His death, when I first watched the movie, really made me wonder who was going to survive. A major character had just been killed! Would it happen again? What chance was there for the others? Wash's death really gave the final scenes a sense of loss and disaster. Anything could have happened. And as for Wash's and Zoe's future? Well, Whedon wasn't going to make more Firefly anyway, was he? And if he did, I'm sure Zoe would've have been revealed as pregnant, as many people have suggested.

So, for many reasons (and probably most not mentioned) I choose ... hmm... Serenity or Serenity? The BDM!

Keep Writing, Keep Flying

MISSTRESSAHARA

Saturday, September 13, 2008 12:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by safeat2nd:
Sorry, but I vote for the pilot as well.

Different mediums aside, I just liked it better.

I've said it before, if the BDM is truer (is that even a word?) to Joss's original vision, then my hatred for Fox aside, I liked their watered down version better.

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^THIS!

I've watched the show since it first aired in 2002, and I was among many who was on the edge of their seats waiting for the movie to be released and going to the theater with light in my eyes and a smile on my face....... and when I came out there was a heaviness, not just disappointment about Wash and Book, but everything, EVERYTHING was off. Nothing made sense, and I didn't recognize any of the characters anymore. It was like a totally different series of characters. As unpopular as this may sound I think I would have preferred no movie at all, then my memories would be of the series and I wouldn't get this bitterness at the back of my throat. I don't know what I went to see, but it wasn't my BDH, and it wasn't Firefly.

And to head people off, I get the change thing, Joss's verse, wanted to make it darker, no it wasn't Firefly it was Serenity, blah, blah, blah....

To me, the movie will always be inferior. Hell, it's not even in my top 10. MOHO.

*~A footer is the closing of an article, not a kinky sex move~*

MOONDOG

Friday, December 19, 2008 5:37 AM

I really loved both of them and I think it's unfair to make me decide. One thing I would like to bring up is that the BDM is what Joss had envisioned (more or less) of the series had it been allowed to run several seasons. In making the BDM he was forced to condense several years down into 2 hours and things suffer as a consiquence. As to the BDM being Mal/River centered, If the existing episodes are examined in order, that is what the whole story was about. The soul journey of two people facing their personal demons with the support of those qround them. All of the others (People are gonna hate me for suggesting this) are there to define them with their interactions.

COLE23

Friday, December 19, 2008 6:15 AM

I loved the film,but i'll pick the tv pilot everytime.I'm a film guy to,so that's unusual.The reason is simple,the pilot was all about character advancement.The movie was about advancing the story.I'm a guy that loves dialogue and character development.I'll take it over action everytime.Well,maybe not in this shows case,when i think about it.That is one reason Firefly/Serenity is so good.There is hardly any brainless action.When you see a character enter into a fight sequence it's hardly ever just so you can see him or her kick some ass,the action is usually an extension of the characters personality.In other words when Hal shoots the fed in the pilot,it's an extension of his take charge,do what has to be done,no BS,personality.
Another example is the entire crew in the War Stories episode.All the action added to the character development.Like Book shooting a guard in the knees.Sure he's a Shepherd,but he's not going to stand around and preach while his friend is being tortured.That scene told us more about his character than pages of dialouge would have.
Did all that make any sense?haha

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:55 AM

Current totals are 18 votes for Pilot Serenity, 4 votes for BDM Serenity, and one indecisive.

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:17 AM

The pilot, no question.

Whenever I realize that I haven't looked at the eps for a while, I pull 'em out and start off in order. Don't ever get past the pilot in one session, and usually don't have to watch much more to get the feel good.

BLUESUNCOMPANYMAN

Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:50 PM

Pilot. Easily the best of the two, there should be no question.

PIZMOBEACH

Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by wytchcroft:
Quote:
and it was just a dark movie.

am i the only one who thinks the BDM is gorram funny too?

rhetorical butler asks:
were F*X right to insist on 'warming' up the tv show??

If you haven't read the 190 page rough draft and you like the funny, you should take a look:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/8/13/2048723/fireflymovie.pdf

(link from the FFF user TWO).

It has more laughs, too many laughs for some. I found the movie failing when it took itself too seriously.

Pilot

LEEDAVIDT

Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:33 PM

i actually watched the BDM way b4 i ever saw the series...

i really enjoyed the movie...

HOWEVER:

when i did purchase the series and finally sat down to watch serenity "the pilot" i was totally
blown away...
don't get me wrong...i LOVE both BDM and the series...
of course if it could be done over wash and book would never die... ( in my version of the movie) why should they?

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