Enough of the politcal crap!!
POSTED BY: NTXBROWNCOAT
UPDATED: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 05:58
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Originally posted by NTXBROWNCOAT:
And to Ghoulman, you definately seem to be an all or nothing type of person. That is fine but know this, just like you are completely entrenched in your opinion so are the people you call Nazis. Yelling at them is like yelling at a brick wall. The wall is not going to move. The only thing that happens is you get a headache and others think the crazy person yelling at the wall should be quiet. I don't mean to be insulting with that comment.
If you were inferring that I am a Nazi ...
Good Goddess no!
And don't worry about me. I've taken down brick walls during lunch.
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Unfortunately, those yelling at the brick walls will never be satisfied with a separate place for their political debates because their target audience is not the wall they are yelling at, but those innocent bystanders who want no part of it. What they fail to see is that it is their own actions that turn people off to political debate, not the issues at hand.
And on a different note, (EDIT - but same chord), I love the irony of left-wingers describing right-wingers as Nazis. "Nazi", after all, is a contraction of the party name: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, i.e. National Socialist German Workers' Party.
Socialist leaning, gun control supporting leftists would do well to remember that, before the Nazis came for anyone, they came for their guns.
But that's a hazard of looking at politics along the right-wing/left-wing axis, rather than what I feel is a more illuminating libertarian/authoritarian axis.
(Edited for italics)
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I can only say that I have stopped visiting the forums.prospero.com/Firefly site for that very reason. As I said in one of their threads, "Too much politics and not enough Firefly!" I love Firefly so much that I hate to see the threads besmudged with daily, ongoing mudslinging about politics which is something I try to avoid at all costs in real life. and yes, when the time comes I do vote and I vote intelligently but I don't like seeing or hearing anything about it when I'm looking for nuggets of Firefly.
Just my .02 cents. 
"And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." Mal - Train Job
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^^^ that's the most integral two cents regarding this issue posted yet. Unlike the NRA Libertarian above *chuckle*.
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Originally posted by Ghoulman:
^^^ that's the most integral two cents regarding this issue posted yet. Unlike the NRA Libertarian above *chuckle*.
That would be GOA Libertarian, thank you very much.
And while it is ironic that I slid into political discussion whilst denouncing unwanted political discussion... my point is that the nature and manner of said political discussion often deems it counterproductive anyhow. Using the Nazi reference as an example, the facist tendencies of the right do not out-weigh the facist tendencies of the left, but accusations of such do serve to turn off the casual observer to the discussion.
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Astriana:
Oh! My! God(dess)!
I just noticed that the "Our President" and "(blah-blah) Torture..." threads are gone from the General Discussion board. Can it be? Are we saved?
Thank you, thank you, thank you! (zoid does Three Stooges-style 'happy dance', which is very tricky to do solo; children and household pets look at him strangely)
To any lingering pol-trolls: I adhere to the wise counsel of a great man, who warned Americans to avoid political parties and the fervor associated with party affiliation, "the spirit of party". From Encarta:
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Let me ... warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally .... A fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume ....
The man? The Father of Our Nation, George Washington, in his farewell address. The people of our country, today, would do well to heed his advice, since it seems almost prescient of our current state of political division. His words also seem to fairly well answer some 'political party addicts' hereabouts, that have insisted their invective is a healthy part of our political process. I'll take Mr. Washington's word on the subject, thanks anyway...
If your announcement of a separate board means those divisive 'real world' topics are banned from the General Board, then, Hurrah! You are truly my heroine!
Did I ever mention how smart I think those 'Founding Father' guys were?
Respectfully,
zoid
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It's really funny to me. In the real world of face-to-face discussion and debate, I relish a good political debate. One of my best friends happens to be a bit on the Left, while I lean a bit more to the Right. Our discussions have always been entertaining and thought-provoking, resulting in the occasional changed mind. It's really funny that I've made him a pro-Second Amendment person, and he's changed my mind on abortion.
All that aside, what I think really takes away from all that pleasant give-and-take is the relative anonymity of the Internet and the lack of proximity. Many people, who may otherwise be the gentlest souls in person, can quite rapidly devolve into the most egregious flamers with the walls of an Internet connection separating someone from another person with whom they may be arguing. People just are flat out more circumspect in their thoughts and in their speech when someone is right in front of them.
If people were more willing to be less partisan and hate-filled in their ranting (myself included 
,) then maybe some of these discussions would be more than the bile-filled screeds they often are. To be fair, I'm definitely just as guilty as the rest, but then again, I try to avoid the threads, too.
They can have my "Firefly" DVDs when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers....
Oh yeah, 
you, FOX TV!!
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