More controversy....
POSTED BY: jewelstaitefan
UPDATED: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 13:51
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and it was just a dark movie.
am i the only one who thinks the BDM is gorram funny too?
rhetorical butler asks:
were F*X right to insist on 'warming' up the tv show??
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Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:
Pilot for me.
1. The Girl in the Box - when River first comes out and starts talking to Simon. I don't know about you folks but I just wanted to take her in my arms and protect her (much as Simon did).
2. "Curse your sudden, but inevitable betrayal" This scene introduces one of the most beloved characters in tv today. Joss set this up perfectly. Wash is us, the decent guy who happens to be the best pilot in the 'verse. Right away we know this guy in just that scene.
3. Kaylee's "You're gonna come with us" nuf said.
4. Pain is scary - in those 3 words we know who Jayne is.
5. The Look that Zoe gives Mal when she finds out that the Alliance "goods" are marked (in Badger's Den) but she never wavers standing by her Captain.
6. The little push that Mal gives Inara when he orders her to escape in the shuttle when being chased by the Reavers.
7. Simon's Speech about his genius sister, Wow.
8. Book's confession to Inara, great scene.
9. Crazy Ivan scene leading up to Kaylee's "That's my girl"
10. Zoe's "Take the helm, sir" right after. Great stuff. Here's this warrior woman, who could probably fight Jayne to a standstill, becoming a complete girl whenever her husband does his cool pilot thing. I simply love that. She lights up when Wash does his thing. Now tell me that ain't brilliant writing.
Should I go on. Not that the BDM doesn't have its moments. More on that later.
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You said it all. The Pilot is, at this moment, my favorite episode. It's poignant, emotional, but there is also great action and sparkling wit. I'm a sucker for wit. I like the balance of sci fi and wild west motifs here also. And the intro to each character makes you just love them. Even Jayne, who you know you can't trust.
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I like both and they accomplish two different things.
The pilot is the introduction of all the characters and touches on some of the relationships. There are some great character interactions. They are listed above.
The BDM, while being Mal and River centric, is a solid Sci Fi story and Mal is generously dark, but he does arc and rise above his personal loss in the valley.
I had a co-worker who went to the opening of the movie. He was disappointed, “too much like Buffy in Space,” he said. He recently saw a few episodes on UHD and was impressed. I loaned him the series. He is floored. “What a great show and it’s nothing like the movie” He says. He’s hooked and I need to go to Target now and get another set.
If we get a sequel, I hope Joss is able to balance the two together this time and although I love River, the ass kicking has been done and is getting old. Maybe just a short scene or two would suffice. And no more school scenes. Was that a future implementation of classroom curriculum documentary I was freaking watching Joss? I’m bored, already.
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Pilot seems to be the general response and I must agree. After all, the pilot leads to the series whereas the BDM leads to...no Wash. Sob.
I must say I do prefer the music in BDM then the pilot. Heh heh.
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Pilot all the way, sorry to those who love the movie but it is inferior to the show, always will be in my opinion. To even compare it is wrong. The movie will be just an extention of the series, and not the best. I actually prefer HOG to the BDM. but again, my own opinion.
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Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Pilot all the way, sorry to those who love the movie but it is inferior to the show, always will be in my opinion. To even compare it is wrong. The movie will be just an extention of the series, and not the best. I actually prefer HOG to the BDM. but again, my own opinion.
no actually i think you're in the majority, certainly if Serenity Found, Imdb.com
and the unpopular opinions thread are to be believed.
i would never criticize someone for a subjective opinion (taste) either way. (well, not mostly!)
But i've always found it interesting -
heard a lot of good arguments and got a lot of genuine insights
from both camps (as it were):)
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Well, not as unpopular a thought as I had conjured.
So far, 11-2 for Pilot Serenity.
After posting this yesterday, it occurred to me that at the CSTS screening there was pre-show stuff that was show via a personal computer, on the silver screen. It was even shown with the house lights on. I assume many venues had the same pre-show entertainment.
So, how cool would it be to have the Pilot on the bigscreen? I'd pay to see that with a bunch of browncoats. And it is named Serenity, so funds could go to CSTS, if Fox agrees.
Maybe a CSTS could have a double feature, Pilot Serenity followed by BDM Serenity.
Or has this been done and I just missed out?
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I'm going to have to go with Pilot Serenity as well. It was my introduction to the 'verse and it was just love at first sight. So I imagine I'll always have a fairly intense response to it. As far as the BDM vs. the series in my opinion it's apples and oranges. Sure it was a continuation of some of the story- but it obviously could only focus on certain story threads due to length and pacing. One of the things I loved about the series was that nine different characters were all given their due, which is no easy feat. And the feel of the movie is much different from the warm, lived in, home-y vibe I get from the series. The color palette alone makes that abundantly clear. All of this is not to say I don't love the movie, I'll always be grateful for it, and it's definitely one of the better sci-fi movies I've seen. (But I will admit I always feel like there's a dull heavy ache in my chest whenever I think about the movie. It was in many ways the death of the series I loved so dearly. There's simply no coming back from the places that it took us and the characters we lost. I suppose I was being illogically optimistic up until I saw it - thinking that there could always be a day when Firefly could be resurrected. -I'm aware that that's all kind of stupid but I'm thinking some of you will understand.- Anyways, the movie was similar to a life changing event in your personal life- you know that after this has happened there's no going back. Things will never be like they once were no matter how much you wish for it. You'll never be able to return to that familiar and more innocent place that you were in before things changed for you. So the movie has always evoked a bittersweet response for me. Happiness to see the 'verse again tinged with loss over knowing that we can all never go back to the way things were.) So really wordy likely overdramatic post to say that I love the movie just not in the same way as the pilot. 
And jewelstaitefan I too would love to see some Firefly on the big screen. I know before the copyright crackdown around the time of the WGA strike there were some theatres that showed episodes of Firefly and Buffy. Would have loved that. (Especially seeing OMWF on the big screen which I have yet to do since I live in the armpit of Uncoolsville.) I would imagine any showing of Firefly at a CSTS event would likely have to be handled by each venue by themselves since the global CSTS organizers probably have their hands full securing rights through Universal alone. And I fully agree on the awesome factor of seeing the pilot on the big screen with other flans.
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I don't believe the two can be compared.
Its completely different points on the scale. They both are gorram amazing, but the BDM was more epic than anything you could do on TV. One was for the building, one was for gaining. The pilot is one of the finest pieces of work I have have ever seen.
I can't choose on this one folks!.....DONT MAKE ME!!! 
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Serenity the Big Damn Pilot, by miles. It's my absolute fave, beating out OMR and Shindig, even, by a ways. The Pilot is what I watch as first choice whenever I wanta watch FF. The BDM, sadly, is a disappointment, on a level with Train Job and Bushwacked.
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