Screw 'em if they hate us

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RALLEM

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:29 PM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
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Originally posted by rallem:
Do you actually live in America, and simply want to change the system even though you know it is impossible, or do you live outside of America and are just talking crap about us?

It doesn't matter. And I ain't talking crap about you, unless you're a politician passing stupid laws.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

And I appreciate that, but I am trying to understand your motivations, because if you do live in America and are trying to change a system where too many politician and business people are making money from it, I would reccomend the only thing you change is your Country. I understand that some people do want to change the way their country is run, but when there is no chance of it, maybe they should try to find a country which is run the way you like and move there. My Dad grew up and lived in Hungary, and for a brief period he stood up against the Soviet Union, but when he saw that he had rocks to throw and they had tanks my Dad decided to move to America.

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RALLEM

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
Quote:
Originally posted by rallem:
Do you actually live in America, and simply want to change the system even though you know it is impossible, or do you live outside of America and are just talking crap about us?

It doesn't matter. And I ain't talking crap about you, unless you're a politician passing stupid laws.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

And I appreciate that, but I am trying to understand your motivations, because if you do live in America and are trying to change a system where too many politician and business people are making money from it, I would recommend the only thing you change is your Country. I understand that some people do want to change the way their country is run, but when there is no chance of it, maybe they should try to find a country which is run the way you like and move there. My Dad grew up and lived in Hungary, and for a brief period he stood up against the Soviet Union, but when he saw that he had rocks to throw and they had tanks my Dad decided to move to America.

http://swyzzlestyx.com/index.html

SIGNYM

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:39 PM

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My Dad grew up and lived in Hungary

Huh. Small world. So did my SO. He even wrote a short story for his HS paper about the invasion and how his family walked across a minefield. He recalls 50 caliber shells hitting the stone walls of the family apartment in Budapest, and rounding a corner an coming face to face with a T-50. Despite that, he though the Soviet soldiers looked lonely and sad. The title of his story was No One Left to Hate

Did your dad ever go to Margitsziget (Margaret Island)? My SO has fond memories even to this day.

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RALLEM

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:49 PM

I don't know. My Dad lived in Cegled Hungary and he went back a few times to visit his mother who passed away last year. I don't know if he ever visited other parts of the Country while he was there but I would think he did.

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SERGEANTX

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:49 PM

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I would recommend the only thing you change is your Country. I understand that some people do want to change the way their country is run, but when there is no chance of it, maybe they should try to find a country which is run the way you like and move there.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not one to cut and run. I think the odds for improving things are considerably greater than 'none'. But if my assessment was as pessimistic as yours, I'd probably be thinking about getting the hell out. Where are you headed?

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

RALLEM

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
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I would recommend the only thing you change is your Country. I understand that some people do want to change the way their country is run, but when there is no chance of it, maybe they should try to find a country which is run the way you like and move there.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not one to cut and run. I think the odds for improving things are considerably greater than 'none'. But if my assessment was as pessimistic as yours, I'd probably be thinking about getting the hell out. Where are you headed?

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

I don't have a problem with the system of American Government or Business, so I think I will stay put. I will tell you that if I could move anywhere I wanted I would like to move to New Zealand, but then again after the Lord of the Rings movie I bet lots of people have begun moving there or at least started visiting there and it would be too crowded for me. I like solitude, and now that Vermont's population had jumped from about 500,000 to about 600,000 people I am beginning to feel crowded out here, but I don't know where else to go.

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SERGEANTX

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:43 PM

So, rallem, I'm curious what you're getting at. You seem to be suggesting the old 'love-it-or-leave-it' line. Does that mean you're ok with a legal framework that favors the shenanigans you mentioned in your previous post? Does it seem right to you that Ted Kennedy was able skirt responsibility by exploiting legal loopholes?

You seem to be saying we shouldn't try to change how our country is run, but if the results are clearly unjust, why not try to make things better?

Or are you saying that things aren't likely to change, so everyone should be quiet and accept things as they are?

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

RUE

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:43 PM

Khyron - why is it when you post you try to shut down other opinions ?

Like here ...
We've been challenging AURaptor for years and all it did was waste everyone's time.
... and here ...
Rue, clearly you missed my point, so just stay out of this.

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RALLEM

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
So, rallem, I'm curious what you're getting at. You seem to be suggesting the old 'love-it-or-leave-it' line. Does that mean you're ok with a legal framework that favors the shenanigans you mentioned in your previous post? Does it seem right to you that Ted Kennedy was able skirt responsibility by exploiting legal loopholes?

You seem to be saying we shouldn't try to change how our country is run, but if the results are clearly unjust, why not try to make things better?

Or are you saying that things aren't likely to change, so everyone should be quiet and accept things as they are?

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

I think basically it is a good system SergeantX, but yes there are loopholes which can and will be exploited by people like the Kennedys, and for that I feel bad. I am thinking I would like to incorporate my family name to prevent myself from wrongfully being sued, so I don't lose all I've earned to some shyster. There are other reasons for my wanting to incorporate my name too, but I don't want to get into that.

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SERGEANTX

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:18 PM

That wasn't what I was questioning at all. The system is what the system is and anyone and everyone should use it to their advantage (within reason). I was just wondering what you were getting at by suggesting I should leave the country rather than try to change things.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rockqu

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