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Enough of the politcal crap!!

POSTED BY: NTXBROWNCOAT
UPDATED: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 05:58
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Friday, May 7, 2004 6:45 PM

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Originally posted by embers:
Bears repeating:
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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
I generally avoid the political threads for many reasons, not the least of which is that I do not like to read, discuss, or argue political beliefs or leanings. I have come to respect and admire several people on this board, and would not want any conflict of political interests or beliefs to jeopardize those friendships.

While I do not care for all the political threads cropping up, or the inevitable America bashing that always follows, I do still read them from time to time, to check links and articles people post to keep myself informed from multiple sources of info.

As far as whether they "belong" here or not, I don't think that is for us to decide. This is an open forum. If you do not wish to participate, don't.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."




I feel that getting into political (and of course also, religious...but we've done that here too) discussions run the danger of breaking apart this community for no good reason.

We have formed a community of people who wish to enjoy our obsession w/the Whedonverse, most importantly: Firefly, and to damage the friendships and fellow-feeling with bitter RL arguments seems to me to be counter-productive to our purpose here. I have avoided the threads because I could quickly see that I would learn to despise many of the people who find it necessary to beat up others with their opinions.



My point exactly Embers.

There is little in life worth losing the feeling of camaraderie we enjoy here, the least of which should be politics.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Friday, May 7, 2004 6:56 PM

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Originally posted by NTXBROWNCOAT:
I have been lurking for a while now and haven't posted yet because I didn't really have anything to say. Well that changed today when I came on to check the recent posts and saw not one but two new politically oriented posts.

Hello NXTBrowncoat and welcome aboard. Don't let these folks scare you - they're passionate, and fearless, but pretty darn okay.

I guess if you've been lurking for awhile then it can't have escaped your notice that politically oriented posts have been part of FFF.net since the beginning. I posted once myself when the conceal carry law was passed in Minnesota, just to assuage my own silly little fears about the prospect of folks carrying handguns in my immediate vicinity. Not necessarily politically oriented, but certainly human interest. I bet the OB even has political messages on it - there's really no way to avoid them these days.

I think it's also fair to say that political posts are the ultimate side-effect of having intellegent people co-mingling online. Firefly has a tendency to attract people who have their minds divided by a plethora of current events and issues and sometimes they just need to let it out before it drives them River-crazy. I believe that they choose to do this on FFF.net in order to discuss their view or confusion with other intelligent people who's opinions they have come to value, much the same way as you have right now.

You posed some valid concerns and views yourself. FFF.net is indeed a public forum - a place for us to talk about all manner of issues. As Haken's advisement at the top of this reply page says, there is an open policy here. Luckily, those who chose to discuss politics often mark their threads accordingly, making it easy for the rest to avoid them. If you prefer to avoid in the political or religions discussions - don't click on them.

Funny thing is, it was the word "crap" in your title that drew me in here, and not "politcal" which I didn't notice was misspelled until I got here. Now what does that say, I wonder?

Something else - I'll readily admit to anyone that I'm a Christian and that I'll be 37 soon, but asking me about my political standing is a lot like asking me about my weight. That seem right to you?

Now then, back to the Firefly Universe to catch up on my RP posting!

We have art so as not to die of truth ~ Neitzsche
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Friday, May 7, 2004 7:43 PM

So, Channain...how much do you weigh? :)
Heck, I'm sorry, I just couldn't help it. :D

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Friday, May 7, 2004 7:51 PM

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Originally posted by BlackoutNights:
So, Channain...how much do you weigh? :)
Heck, I'm sorry, I just couldn't help it. :D


About half of what I weigh. I come in around 270 pounds. That makes Channain a mere slip of a girl at 135.

"Just keep walkin, preacher man."

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Friday, May 7, 2004 7:51 PM

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Originally posted by Delia:
Okay, this is me being relatively new to the posting world, but what is "Troll Country"?



Haken has set the site up so the community section has different message areas. If you set up a thread about BTVS it should be in the Buffyverse area, if you want to discuss something in the news the thread should be set up in the News Headline area etc. My understanding is that the Troll Country area is for threads where people have been rude or offensive in someway, such as insulting Firefly. The following is an example of a troll thread:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=15&t=1188

However, at present everyone seems to be setting all the threads up in the General discussions area (which is only suppose to be for discussions and comments relating to Firefly).

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Friday, May 7, 2004 7:55 PM

i agree. i am getting tired of this crap. all against pres. bush. get over it. there is a war don't bitch about it.

"please, people need peace"

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Friday, May 7, 2004 7:55 PM

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Friday, May 7, 2004 7:56 PM

....go to a politcial site to discuss them.

"please, people need peace"

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Friday, May 7, 2004 8:29 PM

Political discussions don't bother me.

Political discussions on this site don't bother me.

Firefly-relevant posts getting bumped off the front page of the "General Discussions" forum before I even get a chance to see them does bother me.

I would truly appreciate it if a "Non-Firefly Related Political Discussions" forum were added.

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Friday, May 7, 2004 8:40 PM

OK, sorry I misspelled political in my thread subject title, also crap is probably inappropriate. I let my frustration get the better of me. I think I may have missed the mark with getting what I wanted to say across. In such a short period of time I have recieved several responses to my opinion. Unless its news Big Damn News about the Big Damn Movie, no other threads here get so much attention is so short a time. I come to this site to learn more about Firefly. I get disappointed when I see the most traffic on the political threads. I don't usually read the threads because the one time I did, I found myself getting very frustrated when I would read someone's opinion that I felt was uninformed. I am not trying to keep people from speaking their mind. To me its like turning on your radio to your favorite station and instead of finding music you find talk radio. I am not against talk radio, I just expected different content. I know I am not going to change everyones mind about posting political opinions on this site. Actually, I expect that some will do so out of spite. My suggestion to those who like to participate in such discussions is for moving those discussions to a forum more (in my opinion) appropriate, or creating a forum more appropriate. Thank you to all those who sent your welcome to me, it is much appreciated. Thanks also to Haken for providing such a shiny place for us all!

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