distorted 'feminist' view of firefly

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STRANGEBIRD

Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:05 PM

I feel I need to counter this with my own view. I'm not always very good at articulating myself so if you feel I was wrong on a point let me know. I have nothing but respect for women, as I do any living thing. I am not trying to be offensive and if I'm a feminist I didn't know it. I don't label myself anything but a Browncoat and I'm damn proud of the title.

What a sad person. I'll never understand this point of view. When will these foolish people get over themselves and see the real god damn problem here. They always categorizes and take to extremes the various "issues" instead of realizing that the problem is much bigger. I mean judging people is one thing, it's human nature, but refusing to see anything outside your perverted sensibilities is idiotic. I was raised in the south and have seen a lot of both bigotry and racism... she is most definitely both a bigot and a racist. She hides behind notions of morality but the fact is thinking a black woman can't call a white man sir is simply just as racist as thinking she must. As it is sexist to think a woman cannot be as flawed as any man and that all men are evil.

Nearly all the strong, intelligent people I've met in my life have been women. My great grand mother was the greatest and wisest person I ever met. She visited every state including Hawaii and Alaska along with many other great achievements for a woman from her generation. She died a few years ago at the age of 102. She would not even have acknowledged this womans rantings with even a breath. I wish I had the peace of mind to take that liberty.

That's not to say I haven't met my share of great men or terrible women either. I just see people, flawed and noble, meek and strong. She obviously finds only evil no matter where she looks. And only pity can be felt for someone who has led such a negative, painful existence to bring about that point of view.

I see it as this, if people, in any case, want to be treated equally you'll be treated the same as everyone else... not coddled or bowed down to like a deity. To me that's just as bad as how this "lady" feels all men treat women. Respect must be earned through actions, and can be lost by them far easier than can it be gained.

What a waste of time reading her rant. I could have spent it reading the book series I just discovered.... by god what would she think of that? Being written by a woman and set during a period in which it were illegal for a woman to even wear men's dress. Not to mention hold rank or even be in service to a military. And oh no... it's from a man's perspective. A British Naval Officer no less. She'd have a hey day on that one. Which by the way I recommend to Browncoats as it is very much up our alley. The Temeraire series by Naomi Novik. Fantasy, yes, but an equal mix of alternate history and adventure/thriller thrown in. In the same way Joss mixed Scifi and Western so deftly.

"And that's all I have to say about that..."

Yeah I just quoted Forrest Gump...

By the way MAJORLYCOOL, that was very funny. I have no previous experience with Live Journal and it shows me that there are decent, intelligent people there.

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VERTIGO

Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:25 PM

*facepalm*
blasphemy!!!

Is it me, or do rants not get the message across?

i mean, that was all a fair argument and the like, and she evidently has strong views.
but all i saw was 'rant rant rant. rant..rant'

I cant stand it.
maybe if she'd been a bit more..subtle?

Shiny.

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ALLIETHORN7

Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:56 PM

What I found just hilarious-
"Wow! I am so impressed at the amount of time and thought you put into this! I also appreciate how you were able to really get to the hardhitting points without getting bogged down in bias. Very well written!"
Bias? That isn't the word, Love- I don't think a word could go beyond that and still be in our language.
Bloody hypocrites. Apparently I am an evil pig because I have a penis and call a girl pretty.

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Won'tyou carry it in,
In your head,
In your mouth,
In your soul?
And maybe we'll get lucky and we'll both grow old,
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FELLOWKNEE

Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:09 PM

Thanks for the heads up on Temeraire. It sounds really great. Dragons and turn of the century military tactics. My inner nerd is drooling.

GRIZWALD

Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:11 PM

I love the juxtaposition of those two rants. It's like so much with Firefly: People get out of it what they want to. There's something in it for everyone. Something to love, if that's what you need; something to hate if you are looking for that, too.

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CHRISISALL

Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:13 PM

Buffy did do Spike. Did ya see her bite marks the next morning? No? That's 'cause she was under the carpet...swept there, metaphorically.
Joss must hate women.

What crap Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Grizwald:
I love the juxtaposition of those two rants.

"Then the Pilot is raped by the First Mate."

LOL, falls off chair...wipes off tears of laughter...

omgisall

TANKOBITE

Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:31 PM

I think the whole thing's funny; considering that someone said Whedon's future is a dystopia...

Don't you just love the lunatic fringe that gives your movement a bad name? This is the reason I still use sexist pronouns and the phrase "mankind"

Edit: Now someone's taking offense that they call the ship a "She"! Ha! Only one ship I know of was called a "he" (the Bismarck") and look where "he" ended up!
Rofl!
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Who weeps for her only son;
There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
A grave that the Burmans shun;
And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
Who tells how the work was done.

MACBAKER

Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MajorlyCool:
Check this out, it will restore your faith in humanity. ;)

http://aic-weirdo.livejournal.com/589119.html

That is a brilliant response! So funny, but so dead on extreme in the other direction! Perfect!

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

TANKOBITE

Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:37 PM

Nice; give my regards to the fellow!
Edit: Honestly, I think his argument has more legs to stand on then hers...har!
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There's a widow in sleepy Chester
Who weeps for her only son;
There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
A grave that the Burmans shun;
And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
Who tells how the work was done.

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