WTF? People on here voted that Bush should be prez in '04?!
POSTED BY: Agatsu
UPDATED: Monday, January 8, 2024 12:12
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Quote:In what world would you not discuss politics. That actually gave me a chuckle. And you respect the rights of people who don’t agree with you only if they keep their mouth shut.
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Bullshit, Finn.
Again...
I respect the rights of people who do not agree with me - you believe people who disagree with you HAVE no rights.
It wouldn't be me, it would be you, and you're just pissed off that I called you on it.
Were there not an RWED, I wouldn't be discussin politics here at all, but I would still be here.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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It confuses me sometimes when people here get so upset about minor insults and profanity. I wonder if some of the misunderstanding doesn't come from a white collar/blue collar thing. I know that my boss looks shocked sometimes when I tell him he's a an idiot, and to go f-himself. He works in an office and that type of communication isn't as common as it is in the blue collar world. Every day the younger guys on my crew insult my mother and my intelligence. It's just their way of saying,just because your my boss doesn't make you my superior. I wish more of the young people here would put their self esteem training they get in school today to use in the RWED. Why should they care what some neo-con marxist idiot thinks about their opinion. You'll never know what people think of your rant unless you post. It amazes me how few return after their initial post is trashed. Show some nads and stand up to these old farts that hang out here.
Just another troll scum traped in the RWED.
Kirkules
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....old farts, hey, i resemble that remark..!
no, i see what you're saying and i agree, except that i wasn't that aware of the self esteem training in todays schools...
troll scum.. is this going to be a trend?
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BWAAHAAHAHHA, worst president ever. If he really wanted to win the war there would have been a draft, not this redeployment crap, your times up oh well we're at war so your gonna go back to the front, by the way vetrans benefits were cut again so don't get hurt. and see if you can scrounge up some metal when you're home on leave we need more armor. 911 was on his watch, his bumbling and incompetance are why the economys in the crapper. Lets sign a bill that gives corporations tax breaks for sending jobs overseas, thatll boost the economy. lets attack the only nation in the middle east thats NOT muslum extremest.(talaban {you know the guys behind 911}had a price on Sadams head), hey we could use the money to stimulate the econmy, hey guys we FINALLY got him, wheres the reward.
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Kirk, I might not agree with ya a lot, but you sure make some interestin observations...
Worth a ponder that one is - consider us cabbies catch it all day from the general populace, and share and share alike amongst ourselves.
Down on Cass they call it "playin the dozens", it's a big part of poor workinman culture, busting chops and gettin yours busted.
But yeah, it's a REAL different kinda world, Fremgirl is pretty white collar, all executive and stuff, they seem to settle things with lawsuits that we settle with a pair of tire irons out behind the tool shed, and I often (hearing stories of some awful office politics from her) wonder if ours isn't the better way...
But I guess it's up to the individual, how they wanna go about it, aint it ?
-F
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Quote:Bullshit. To have you say that anarchism and government control (Alliance) and monopolism (Blue Sun) and propaganda and atheism ("You're welcome on my boat. God ain't"), truth (You can't stop the signal) had "nothing to do" with Joss Whedon would probably make Joss put his head thru a wall in frustration. How much pointier would he have to be for you to "get it"? Did you miss, perhaps, Whedon's rather long statement that the United States is The Alliance? Or the fact that he was inspired by the post-Civil War displacement?
The question is what maintains it and while many of those who come to this board with no other interest then to hash it out on subjects that have nothing to do with anything related to Joss Whedon may think that it exists on its own...
I'm gonna be honest here, Finn, 'cause like I said: I'm tired of the bullshit and dishonesty. The only reason why you call this part a "scum trap" is because you're so uncomfortable with whole premise of Firefly that you'd throw it all out. Think about that.
For the life of me, I can't imagine what attracted you to the show. Must have been a mistake on your part.
Oh, BTW- I have introduced dozens of people to Firefly, and loaned out/ bought DVDs for many. I've written to Fox and the other powers that be to bring Firefly back. The people down here are fans just as much as the people upstairs. But you have no problems dissing whole swaths of fans because you've got mental fart going on. Way to go.
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Eh, Too provocative to post. Something about purple-bellies. You fill in the rest.
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As usual, agreeing with Frem, but Signy's post completely nails 'it'.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
But yeah, it's a REAL different kinda world, Fremgirl is pretty white collar, all executive and stuff, they seem to settle things with lawsuits that we settle with a pair of tire irons out behind the tool shed, and I often (hearing stories of some awful office politics from her) wonder if ours isn't the better way...
I spent the better, er, well longer, portion of my life in blue-collar land. And now, having changed careers at 40, find myself in offices brushing up against the white collar twits. I can't say one is worse than the other, as I was pretty thoroughly fed up with "arrogant ignorance" of the rednecks. But the "arrogant ignorance" of the office managers is no more appealing.
It is interesting, sometimes, how my perception of their political games is different that those steeped in the culture. Usually, I can hardly keep from laughing while the management types through their weight around, imagining how my old union chums would react to their petty power trips.
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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Originally posted by deadlockvictim:
scum trap....? give me a break... people will be people - some get all bent out of shape if they face opposition, some thrive on it.. but scum trap...? That's not what this place is to me. Most of the time (when i'm not riffing on Bush) I visit this site and this particular portion (below the fold) to check on current events or to pick up on a good link or two.. And now get your flame throwers ready cause i'm going to say something that has been on my mind for a while now... Firefly is a dead horse... we can beat it till we're blue in the face but it ain't coming back... I have posted in the other threads and have pretty much run out of favorite scenes or quotes from the show - it has been done to death, but down here in the basement, things are happening... maybe not to everyone's liking, but interesting none the less - yeah, so i can be a loud mouth schnook at times - i blame my love of the absurd, but most don't get my humor... doesn't make me want to tuck tail and run... if the shit gets too deep, i can simply shut it off - and there in lies the secret to anything anyone disagrees with - turn it off... (just as some of you are turning me off right now)
Most of us have strong opinions - not gonna change your mind - not gonna change mine - but the discourse is at times educational and informative - and at time down right hilarious...
So please don't label RWED a scum trap - that phrase brings to mind three horrible days spend in Toledo Ohio.... maybe it was the weather,,,
edit... don't get me wrong, i still think Firefly and all of Whedon's work is some of the best writing that ever made it to the idiot box... just saying....
I agree with you that the RWED is NOT a scum trap.
I strongly disagree with you that Firefly is dead & ain't coming back.
On the former...I've learned a lot of things here in RWED over the last 2 years. For one thing I've learned how passionate and articulate some folks can be when expressing their beliefs...whether I agree with them or not, it still is an interesting debate usually. Certainly more interesting and informative than let's say the old Yahoo current event boards where people just used to scream profanities at each other all day...now that was really a scum trap & I'm glad they shut it down.
On the latter, how can you say Firefly is dead? No one can predict to a certainty the future. It may take many years, like Battlestar's 20+ year wait, and yes it may never happen in our lifetime's...but to write it off as dead seems to me to be the antithesis of what Firefly is all about.
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Quote:Ah, and now you’ve proved my point. I haven’t said anything about your interest in the show, or made any reference at all to your person or your character. I’ve referred to a type of discussion, not to the fans. But you don’t agree with me, so your solution is to throw me out - to attack me. That’s why the RWED events exist. If you didn’t have a place to throw these little fits of yours and hate the people you didn’t agree with, you either wouldn‘t be here or you‘d be throwing these fits all over the board. How many people would you summarily decide had no interest in Firefly and throw out simply because you didn’t agree with them? And if everyone was doing that, how long would the community last? You hold firefly fans in high regard, as long as they agree with you, but if they don’t they can just get out, becuase true Firefly fans agree only with you.
Originally posted by SignyM:
I'm gonna be honest here, Finn, 'cause like I said: I'm tired of the bullshit and dishonesty. The only reason why you call this part a "scum trap" is because you're so uncomfortable with whole premise of Firefly that you'd throw it all out. Think about that.
For the life of me, I can't imagine what attracted you to the show. Must have been a mistake on your part.
Oh, BTW- I have introduced dozens of people to Firefly, and loaned out/ bought DVDs for many. I've written to Fox and the other powers that be to bring Firefly back. The people down here are fans just as much as the people upstairs. But you have no problems dissing whole swaths of fans because you've got mental fart going on. Way to go.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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