WTF? People on here voted that Bush should be prez in '04?!
POSTED BY: Agatsu
UPDATED: Monday, January 8, 2024 12:12
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Not to mention there's a certain amusement in tossing a banana peel out, pointing it our for all to see - putting signs around it, and then watching as folk so totally wrapped up on grinding their little axe walk slambang into it anyway, completely oblivious, and get pratfalled into spewing all the hate, fear and intolerance they try so desperately to hide.
Me, I don't believe in Shaun Yu's assertion that to find out the measure of a person, you should "hold them over the volcano" - I believe that to find the real measure of a person, you simply remove all consequence from their actions, good, bad or indifferent, and then watch what they do.
It's been my experience that once all external restraints on a persons behavior are removed, it doesn't take long at all for their true "self" to become expressed in the actions and behaviors they indulge in, it isn't that power corrupts, so much as power can remove those constraints, revealing the true persona that was there all along but did not dare to express itself.
One thing that fascinates me about RWED is that we, all of us, reveal far more of our true selves then we think, but I don't think that's a bad thing, because it opens up new lines of communication where they did not previously exist, and gives folk who are willing to make the honest effort at understanding others a real chance to do so - it only breaks down in the face of blatant dishonesty, which over time doesn't hold up very well around here anyway.
It's when we choose not to understand each other, to close our minds and try to force our beliefs down onto others, or engage in outright and blatant dishonesty that the sparks tend to fly, because unlike so many boards - you have no "friendly" moderator to back you up and ban those who disagree with you, so you HAVE to be able to effectively argue your point if you want it argued, which is something I treasure about RWED, and some folk seem to despise.
I'll leave you to figure which is which.
-Frem
*waits for it...*
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I've been to Toledo.
Nuff said. 
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
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Me, I don't believe in Shaun Yu's assertion that to find out the measure of a person, you should "hold them over the volcano"
Just curious...was Yu a real person like Sun Tsu or Lao Tse, or was it just made up for the show?
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I don't think he was a real historical figure, although he might have been based on one, I don't know enough about the history and culture to say.
That particular TYPE of assertion has been around a long time, however.
-F
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I admit to having voted for Bush in '00 and '04 in the second post of this thread, and have since been lumped into a stupid pile by the Bush haters on this board.
I'd like to let all of them know that I feel them equally stupid for voting for Gore or Kerry, and most likely for Osamabama in '08.
Quit the partisan shit ya bunch of babies and let's get somebody into office that won't fuck us over and sell us out to the UN.
Nice Muslim president you're going to vote in soon that will make sure that the DCFS takes all of your kids away when you decide that it's more important to put food on the table for your kids then to pay for their health insurance.
Brave New World, here we come..... and you're all walking right into it like a bunch of mindless fucking lemmings.
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Me, I don't believe in Shaun Yu's assertion that to find out the measure of a person, you should "hold them over the volcano" - I believe that to find the real measure of a person, you simply remove all consequence from their actions, good, bad or indifferent, and then watch what they do.
I totally agree. That's why I never want to go to war - I might not like what I find inside myself, and I consider myself to be a very nice guy. The thought scares me, in fact. Face it, we're all disciplined animals, nothing else.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I admit to having voted for Bush in '00 and '04 in the second post of this thread, and have since been lumped into a stupid pile by the Bush haters on this board.
I'd like to let all of them know that I feel them equally stupid for voting for Gore or Kerry, and most likely for Osamabama in '08.
Quit the partisan shit ya bunch of babies and let's get somebody into office that won't fuck us over and sell us out to the UN.
Nice Muslim president you're going to vote in soon that will make sure that the DCFS takes all of your kids away when you decide that it's more important to put food on the table for your kids then to pay for their health insurance.
Brave New World, here we come..... and you're all walking right into it like a bunch of mindless fucking lemmings.
As opposed to what? Your "Manchurian Candidate", John McCain? If Obama's a Muslim - as you REPEATEDLY assert - then what does that make McCain? A bomb-throwing terrorist Mick?
You're sure Obama would turn our kids over to the state, huh? As opposed to McCain, who'll turn them over to... who? The gravedigger, once he jokes us into yet ANOTHER useless fucking war!
Moron.
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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For cryin' out loud, people! 
Am I the only Browncoat that is appalled by the discussions in RWED?! For literally years you guys have been arguing this stuff. And neither side has budged an inch. And yet you keep doing it. And it's typically not the polite stuff you all think it is; it's childish and name calling and not listening and disputing facts... It's a bunch of kids!
We're browncoats. We're supposed to be smarter.
Truthfully, RWED makes me want to leave most of the time.
Now I have a "side" that I agree with, but it's beyond that. Even the "correct" side (according to me) should know better than to keep engaging in this pointless bickering. We all know exactly which side each of the RWED debaters are on, and how entrenched they are. Why keep going on with this???
Sorry, but this is not debate. This is childish.
Sorry to you all. Just had enough of the closed-mindedness....
"Your gratuitous jello awaits." - Dr. Helen Magnus, Sanctuary
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And neither side has budged an inch.
Actually that's not true.
Maybe on this one issue, perhaps, but in the devil of the details a lotta folk have learned things, agreed to disagree, seen the merit of a position even when they did not agree, or even leaned a little more toward or against something.
And a lot of these discussions, despite the nastiness and snark, are very revealing of WHY folks hold certain positions, the thought processes and real life experiences that cause them to feel that way - which is vitally important to understanding those people even if you cannot stand them, cause it's the first step towards living in the same space with em without bashing each others heads in.
Yes, some folk can be cursed close-minded, and if they chose that course, that is their option, but trying to then stuff it down someone elses throat will result in mockery, and frankly, SHOULD result in such.
It might be awful rough and tumble sometimes, but you CAN learn a lot here in RWED if you try.
-F
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I'm not voting McCain. I'm pulling for Hillary at this point, until the delegates go rogue and choose Gore for their nominee because there was no clear winner.
Gore for '08...
I'm down.
P.S. Sorry for my childishness. I get a little excited and get out of hand. Thanks for putting politely in my place.
Regards,
~6SJ "A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack
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