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A new level of despicable

POSTED BY: Geezer
UPDATED: Wednesday, February 6, 2008 14:19
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Saturday, February 2, 2008 4:22 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7221639.stm

Tricking the mentally disabled to carry bombs into markets and then setting them off by remote control is just so far beyond the pale I can't even comprehend.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Saturday, February 2, 2008 4:41 AM

Yeah... that's pretty shitty. If they were doing that here, I would think we should do something about it.

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Saturday, February 2, 2008 6:23 AM

I'd like to see some actual evidence of this before buying a tale from the same mainstream media that tried to sell us everything from "Remember the Maine" to Ahmed Chalabi, to the Kuwaiti Incubator Story, and other such Faery Tales...

Not sayin such things as in this article do not, or can not, happen, mind you - it just seems awfully damned convenient and written in such a way as to attempt provocation of a knee-jerk reaction without thinkin about it too much.

And yanno, that kinda makes me suspicious, it does.

-Frem
"Is that what you think, or is that what they want you to think ?"
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Saturday, February 2, 2008 8:29 AM

Once again betraying my ignorance, Frem, which you are so kind to help enlighten, thank you:)

Kuwaiti Incubator Story?

I had to have missed that somewhere.

Bad_karma

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Saturday, February 2, 2008 12:03 PM

Jeesh...aren't they ALL mentally retarded or insane? I mean the ones that have "normal" IQ's who either plan, direct, donate to, or actually blow up themselves and innocents either because of blood hatred, or their family will get money, or they'll get to bed virgins in heaven; or the militants who saw civilians' heads off with jagged-edged knives or those that use orphaned children forced by fear and intimidation to exact revenge. Can there be one ounce of sane humanity in any of these mammals? Maybe when they run out of human tools to execute their heinous & barbaric acts they'll start using dogs, cats, and trained pigeons.

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Saturday, February 2, 2008 3:14 PM

Trained pigeons are a possibility. The US Army experimented with pigeon-guided missiles. (You may think I'm kidding, but I'm not; look up Project Pigeon on Wikipedia) [/offtopic]

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Saturday, February 2, 2008 4:19 PM

Yeah, my first thought was: Another Incubator Story? FYI, the "Incubator Story" came about when a sobbing 15-year old girl named Nayirah testified to Congress

Quote:

I volunteered at the al-Addan hospital. While I was there, I saw the Iraqi soldiers come into the hospital with guns, and go into the room where . . . babies were in incubators. They took the babies out of the incubators, took the incubators, and left the babies on the cold floor to die.
That helped whip up a frenzy for the first Gulf War. But in fact it was all a hoax. The girl was actually the daughter of a Kuwaiti emir and ambassador to Washington, had not even been in Kuwait at the time, and "had been coached by the public relations firm Hill and Knowlton to give persuasive false testimony."

http://911review.com/precedent/decade/incubators.html

Saw something similar happen in US politics too. There was a picture of a Down's syndrome boy winning a race, with the caption: Voting for XXXX (R) is like being in the Special Olypmics: You may be a winner, but you'll still be retarded. In fact, this flyer was distributed by Candidate XXX (R) who was hoping to generate enough backlash to pick up some votes. The bulletin board that I frequent was all up in arms against Candidate YYY (D), the putative source. I had to get in touch with both candidates and straighten out the outrage.

In other words:

THIS MAY BE A HOAX. Politicians lie. Be careful about what you believe. NEVER react emotionally to anything a politician says, otherwise they've got you by shorts..

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Saturday, February 2, 2008 4:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:

Tricking the mentally disabled to carry bombs into markets and then setting them off by remote control is just so far beyond the pale I can't even comprehend.



Oh, so the mentally disabled are more worthy of living than anyone else? Killing women and children is bad, but killing the mentally disabled is somehow a new low???

This is why I lose faith in reason- we're too busy reacting emotionally to really THINK.

Chrisisall

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Saturday, February 2, 2008 4:40 PM

BK, it was a deliberate and malicious fiction along the same lines as the (unproven) story above, carefully calculated to cause a knee jerk reaction and sponsored by the American PR firm Hill & Knowlton.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0906/p25s02-cogn.html

This smells the same way, to be honest.

The OSP (Office of Special Plans) via the Lincoln Group* has also been previously lambasted for planting "news" stories, often fake, in various media.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/03/politics/03propaganda.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Group

It's a whole dirty little mess, paid for by your tax dollars and reminscent of Operation MOCKINGBIRD.

Throw in some purchased editorials...

http://hill6.thehill.com/leading-the-news/keller-riled-over-government
-paid-reporters-2005-02-16.html


And you wind up with a complete lack of credibility in the US Mainstream Media.



Oh, and M. Bates - I only wish ludicrous ideas like that were farfetched fiction, but DARPA and our intel guys come up with all kinds of wacked-out shit, with no regard to real world effectiveness, just how much of our tax money they can spend for their neat little toys, which mostly wind up used on US... grrr


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_Kitty

Just replace the surveillance equipment with a bomb, and it's the same general idea - although I would reccommend a dog for that, since cats are natural anarchists and not good at takin orders.

The lunatics really are in charge of the asylum, aren't they ?

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Saturday, February 2, 2008 4:53 PM

"This is why I lose faith in reason- we're too busy reacting emotionally to really THINK."

Not all of us, Chris - cryin wolf only works so very long, and many folks are gettin tired of the taste of that bait.

I'll have a side of politician ass, heavy on the BBQ and some Maalox for afters... supersize the office on that wouldja ?

Thanx

-F

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