A Statement

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RUE

Friday, January 11, 2008 10:54 PM

One last thing:

"Since the 2006 midterm elections the ... Democratic caucus (including two independents) constitutes a majority in the United States Senate."

So clearly my numbers - posted from the Senate website and taking into account resignations, governor appointments and party-switches - are in error.

Senate
109th Congress (2005-2007)
Majority Party: Republican (55 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (44 seats)
Other Parties: Independent (1 seat)
Total Seats: 100

I bow to the wisdom of Wiki and rebuke the official record of note.

bastards

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FREMDFIRMA

Friday, January 11, 2008 11:07 PM

Thanks Siggy, yeah Bev and Jim down at BBV are a wonder, and they got some good folk working for em, I don't really have the knowledge and expertise in that kind of thing to be much help, but I do support what they do.

As for the rest, the internet does change the game a bit, so long as it remains free - the mainstream media wouldn't touch the problems with taser and other abuses by law enforcement, but it's come to light publicly regardless.

That bein said, getting a hook into some media is a priority, but that's even harder than bending a politician, especially on a national scale where you have bastards like Sinclair and Murdochs petty little empire, and the remains of Hearsts snivelling bastards too.

Really we need to start building our own media companies, but we got precious little support on that aspect at the current time.

And a note on committe control - why do you think I am up Conyers ass all the time, hell, even his WIFE is trying to put the arm on him, while he's practically hiding under the Judiciary Committe Table.
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Rue, they GOT enough seats to push the issue, especially when popular opinion is so goddamn strong in LIGHT of the media trying to bury it...

So it's not a total overwhelming majority, so what, if that bitch Pelosi ever got off her ass, if that pansy Conyers ever did, the public outcry over even a tenth part of the resultant investigation would BURY those sumbitches, why the hell do you think their approval rating is in the crapper ?

Cause they begged those seats on the promise that they would put an end to this madness, and when they got em they rolled over and played dead, cause in the end they figure they can carry 2008 and then all this front loaded executive power falls into their hands, which is what they want.

They don't wanna cut the leash, they just wanna change who's holding it and I TOLD YOU THAT, TWICE, just before those elections, I'm quite sure Sarge remembers me saying exactly that.

And hell yes I am mocking peaceful protest, when folks stage a peaceful protest and get PLOWED UNDER, violently, by agents of the state, and it doesn't even make the news - you have not accomplished a damned thing but get your ass kicked, and by not defending yourself once attacked like that, hell yes it DOES send the message to the status quo that brutal repression works.

In case you somehow managed to miss it, I can and have held signs along with other folk, but only folk who aren't going to curl into a little ball and beg for mercy when their legal rights are stomped on.

Like Ghandi said, nonviolence doesn't mean you are UNABLE to strike, it shows the maturity of not wanting to settle things that way if you do not have to - but he also advocated defending yourself, with violence if need be, should you BE attacked.

You wanna do something, fine, do something, but be prepared to stand in your own defense or don't bother - maybe that's not how you look at it, but I do... and to sit there busting MY chops when you know damn well I am attacking the root of the problem at the earliest point of intervention is idiotic.

I do what I can on the here and now, but my primary focus is on breaking the chain of abusive and dehumanising conditioning that makes children into those sociopathic corpo climbing drones who contribute to the process, and YOU KNOW THIS, or you damn well should by now, and it's damned thankless work and a lot of it freakin dangerous as well as traumatising to anyone who does do it, one reason I have such a soft spot for Protect.org

But the means and methods are something that will not be discussed not only because it would compromise the process, but let me be blunt, you do NOT want to know, just scratching the surface on some of this shit would give you nightmares for weeks, I guarantee it, do you really WANT to hear a blow by blow account of how a 7 year old was brutalized and slowly crushed to death for the horrible "crime" of blowing bubbles in her milk ?

You wanna bust my chops so bad, you go visit some of these fucking

RUE

Friday, January 11, 2008 11:47 PM

FremD

You walk your talk.

I just can't see NOT voting AGAINST the repubican policies b/c the democrats aren't 'good enough' for you. That's like handing over a signed blank check for more of the same.

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That pretty much sums it up for me.

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Friday, January 11, 2008 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
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Originally posted by rue:
Because you said so yourself. And who would know better than you ?

Prove it.

Bump for Rue, still waiting.

RUE

Friday, January 11, 2008 11:58 PM

Has to do with de-lurking to ... stir stuff up.

Not, to contribute, not to discuss, not to express - naaahhh, just to be a twerp. BTW, I did a google search under de-lurking to stir - no quotes or anything. And by gum, there you were at the top of the search. You made quite and ass of - I mean a name for - yourself with that.

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Gooood joooob.

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Saturday, January 12, 2008 12:09 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Has to do with de-lurking to ... stir stuff up.

Not, to contribute, not to discuss, not to express - naaahhh, just to be a twerp. BTW, I did a google search under de-lurking to stir - no quotes or anything. And by gum, there you were at the top of the search. You made quite and ass of - I mean a name for - yourself.

Talk about an irrelevant distraction.

You do know the difference between a fan-site and real life right? Or are you too much of a doofus to figure it out?

Tell me how you know anything about what any of the Posters on this site do in real life? I've seen you make broad generalizations about a number of people which I'm guessing you are basing solely on a few anonymous posts from a fan-site.
How do I know you write letters and spend money in defense of liberty? Am I supposed to take your word for it? And who do you write letters too? Where does your money go? Do you have certain hot button issues which you focus on? Do those include smoking and gun ownership or are you a hypocrite?

SERGEANTX

Saturday, January 12, 2008 2:13 AM

Quote:
Senate
109th Congress (2005-2007)
Majority Party: Republican (55 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (44 seats)
Other Parties: Independent (1 seat)
Total Seats: 100

I bow to the wisdom of Wiki and rebuke the official record of note.

bastards

Since your numbers are from 2005-2007, it may be that they don't include the midterm election. It's not really a big deal one way or another from my point of view. They'd already let us down long before then anyway.

Anwway, I'm not saying they are exactly the same. But they're the same basic animals at the core. Both parties want a large, powerful government and they want to control it. I think that's why you don't get my ambivalence toward the 'differences' between the parties. To you, they're real differences because both the Democrats and Republicans both agree about the big powerful government part. To you, the important part is how to use government power. To me, it's how we can go about getting rid of as much of it as possible.

From my point of view neither party is addressing the central problem. Until we reign in the overgrown and overreaching government policies in general, the situation will be unacceptable. As I said, I was willing to vote Democrat to get Bush out of office. But I see no point in wasting my vote on someone I disagree with when it's a coin toss which one would be better.

We'll see. If it comes down to Giuliani vs Edwards, I'd probably entertain voting for Edwards. But Clinton vs Giuliani is a tossup. We'll all lose big if those two get it.

To get back to your original question, it may be clear by now that I think the threat of the third party run is good thing. It's about the only damper on our freefall right now. It would be even better if we could changed the system so that it wasn't rigged.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

SIGNYM

Saturday, January 12, 2008 2:31 AM

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But they're the same basic animals at the core.

Ah, the infamous "they". A couple of people in the Republican party are downright decent. A few more (IMHO) in the Dem party are also downright decent. Support them with money come election time, even if they're not from your state.

There used to be a poster who has long since disappeared. Bright guy, self-professed tomato farmer in upstate NY if I recall correctly. He used to say that the best way to swing the Presidential vote is not with a third-party candidate but in the primaries. That's when a small group can make a HUGE difference. But AFA Congress is concerned, I think third parties would are a GREAT idea. We should see more of them.

PS: BDN, you've gotten better but a lot of your old posts were rather trollish.

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RUE

Saturday, January 12, 2008 2:37 AM

SergeantX

"I think the threat of the third party run is good thing."

In Congress - yeah. For the WH - not so much. And first you have to get the sick bastards out. We can squabble about the niceties later.

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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."

SERGEANTX

Saturday, January 12, 2008 2:41 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Ah, the infamous "they". A couple of people in the Republican party are downright decent. A few more (IMHO) in the Dem party are also downright decent. Support them with money come election time, even if they're not from your state.

Sure, I'm overgeneralizing, and we should definitely get behind the few that don't completely suck.

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He used to say that the best way to swing the Presidential vote is not with a third-party candidate but in the primaries. That's when a small group can make a HUGE difference.

Ayup, I was part of those conversations and I'm walking that path currently. Why else would I tarnish my "good" name by registering as a... ahem

Republican?

But a third party challenge keeps parties at least somewhat interested in the desires of the minority.

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... but a lot of your old posts were rather trollish.

moi?

guess it depends on whether I'm typing under the influence or not.

You haven't really improved, btw, but, you know, keep working on it.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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