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RUE
Friday, January 11, 2008 9:19 PM

Yes. I couldn't find a roll-call vote by the House, but the vote was pretty much along party lines and very close:

In an unusual two-step, lawmakers first voted 253-154 to approve the omnibus spending bill; they then voted 206-201 to add $31 billion for troops in Afghanistan to the measure. The combined $516 billion spending package is set for Senate debate on Tuesday.

Democrats simply had it all over repubicans on that.



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Friday, January 11, 2008 9:36 PM

Too little, too late. Obama's just another car salesman. If his schtick works for you, great. Maybe you're right. But everything I see from him, or Hillary, points to more of the same. They're the kind of people who play the system. They do what they have to get votes. They smile and shake hands at all the right moments. They give warm, glowing speeches about hope and change and apple pie. They whip out their canned quips, supplied by their staff of 'handlers'. Everything they do is painfully phony and clearly a product of Madison Avenue psychology.

We have a system that rewards shrewd manipulators and punishes everyone else. I don't know how you can pretend it will offer us anything other than crap. Ultimately, sadly, we'll get the government we deserve. If we wake up and reject the 'reality-show' mentality of mainstream politics, maybe we'll see some improvement. But when's that happening?


SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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RUE
Friday, January 11, 2008 10:18 PM

You're completely ignoring the repubican record. And by doing that you're saying that everything THEY chose to do - doesn't matter to you.

Or maybe you really don't know what the record is, since your posts have been so wildly off track from reality. So, since you seem to be so woefully ignorant about repubicans, here are some things we DO know about your buds, for your edification:

Repubicans had the US PATRIOT Act drafted 6 months before 9/11. Do you really think Gore would have done that ?

Repubicans have made 'voter fraud' and 'real ID' their pet projects, despite strong opposition from democrats at all levels. You down with being in a biometric database just to keep your vote ? You want more of the same ? 'Cause your friends did that, all on their own.

Repubicans jury-rigged the Iraq NIE to get the Iraq vote they wanted. 'Ya know, you can't blame the democrats for voting how they voted - given the information they had. BTW - the estimate is that there were probably 4 repubicans in the loop when it came to real information. You like that ? Go ahead then, say it doesn't matter, keep enabling them.

Anyway, I have work to do.


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Friday, January 11, 2008 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
You know, I consider the haters of liberty to fall into several camps

the repubican partisans who'd take the country over a cliff as long as it meant 'they' got to 'win'. Geezer, Hero, Finn, Rap et al - you know who you are.

the single issue 'freedom lovers' who just can't be bothered with liberty as long as they get to keep their - gun, cigarettes - whatever

the people who are secretly happy to see gitmo, torture, the USPATRIOT Act, illegal wiretaps and the rest, b/c they think it's all about terrorists and whiny liberals and it'll never come home to them - up until voter ID - in which case the whole idea of government out of control comes as a shock

the people who refuse to exercise their freedom b/c it's not exactly how they want it, so - what's the point

and various shadings and combinations thereof.


Just curious Rue, where do you slot yourself?

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RUE
Friday, January 11, 2008 10:23 PM

Writing letters, paying big bucks, and fighting the fight to keep our liberties intact. Walking my talk. And you ?

Oh yeah, you're just a sideline slacker who has nothing better to do than troll.

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Friday, January 11, 2008 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Writing letters, paying big bucks, and fighting the fight to keep our liberties intact. Walking my talk. And you ?

Oh yeah, you're just a sideline slacker who has nothing better to do than troll.


And you know that how?

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RUE
Friday, January 11, 2008 10:30 PM

Because you said so yourself. And who would know better than you ?

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Friday, January 11, 2008 10:34 PM

I'm not crazy about Obama and I detest Hillary. I like Edwards because I think he's pointing to our REAL problem. But I'll vote for the lesser of two weevils if necessary, and push and shove in-between.

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RUE
Friday, January 11, 2008 10:38 PM

Oh, but SignyM - you forget - democrats and repubicans are exactly the same. Exactly ! There is no shade of better or worse here. And besides, the democrats have to make good on the Bush administration and repubican policies and so are locked onto them. Just like the repubican candidates. So you see, they are exactly like repubicans. Exactly !

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Friday, January 11, 2008 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
Because you said so yourself. And who would know better than you ?


Prove it.

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