Our President
POSTED BY: howdyrockerbaby1
UPDATED: Wednesday, May 21, 2025 16:36
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Who thinks that our President needs to get his butt out of the White House?
I certainly do. 
EDIT: CLARIFICATION: I don't think the war in Iraq was necessary at all, and so far Bush has given no reason for going, I think its great that those people are now free, but Bush shouldn't have been so cocky as to think that we could fix that entire country all on our own without the help of the UN. Besides, we have our own problems in our country to worry about before we try fixing everybody elses.
Besides his Anti-Kerry commercials are just rediculous, almost all of the information (especially on the GAS TOPIC) that he says is at least 10 years old, for instance the 50 cent gas tax information(11 years old!) Plus his speeches annoy the hell out of me 
The reason why i have asked this question is because i just wanted to know the general consensus of all my wonder browncoat friends, i'm not trying to start any debate or anything.
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I don't.
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I try not to get into political debates and I won't now but could you two please explain your opinions in more depth than just 'I want him gone' 'well I don't'.
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Out of the White House and directly to JAIL.
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Exactly where Kerry should be for perjury when he lied about what was really happening in Vietnam.
Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.
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nah, I don't think he committed any crimes (that we know of at least).
I think he should go to Iraq. Not sneak in like he did for Thanksgiving. He said "Bring 'em on" so the least he can do is go to Iraq himself and see what has been brought on.
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In general I think its a mistake to have the FFF.net become a political forum. There's LOTS of other boards where you can post those topics.
We're all trying to be good browncoats here and help build support for the movie.
But since you ask about 'shrub':
He proposed a piece of legislation called the "Clean Skies Act" that allows more mercury and more pollutants to be dumped into the air than before...
He enacts legislation to protect our forests that mandates MORE logging and MORE clear cutting...
Tries to eliminate overtime pay for hourly workers...
Worked in the Congress to defeat the Kyoto protocol...
Voted against the abolition of land mines....
Refuses to obey the Geneva convention in our completely lawless treatment of Afghan POWs (many American former POWs fear how nations will treat our soldiers in the future because we've invented something called enemy combatants (whatever the f*ck that is)
Over TWO MILLION jobs lost during his tenure...
On average the jobs that have been created during his reign have been for less than 60% of what the work used to be making... (don't just count jobs, count earning power)
Blatantly lied about WMD...
Started a war with Iraq that by any realistic account will make terrorism much, much worse...
AND on top of all that when asked if he's made any mistakes says that he can't think of anything and says that he's under a lot of pressure because its a new conference. Uhmmmm... you're the President - are you saying you can't handle the pressure from the questions of 7 reporters?
This is the leader of the free world?
Oh yeah... I know I've had enuf of the shrub to last me for the rest of my life.
Imagine what will happen if he does manage to get himself re-elected and DOESN'T have to worry about a 3rd term. The gloves will come off and his agenda will become even more right wing and more reactionary.
The members of our armed services (many of the readers of FFF.net fall into that category) are brave, honorable and honest men and woman doing what they've been ordered to do in a very, very dangerous situation. I want to support them by bringing them home ASAP.
Just my $.02
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i think being the leader of the best country in the world lends itself to excessive scrutiny and the old saying of "you can't please all the people all the time" holds truer in this instance than any other.
I must only say that he is sooo much better than what we had before. Clinton was Ewwww at best.
I love my country and I love my president for better or worse.
Now, before you all hang me out to dry I want to say that I love being a browncoat and this is my favorite place to be when I get on line so please don't ruin it for me by going all blue hands on me
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Originally posted by richardecheandia:
In general I think its a mistake to have the FFF.net become a political forum. There's LOTS of other boards where you can post those topics.
Agree.
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But since you ask about 'shrub':
He proposed a piece of legislation called the "Clean Skies Act" that allows more mercury and more pollutants to be dumped into the air than before...
Yeah, and they all started dumping it the next day. Never mind that the result is a net reduction in pollutants and the saving of tens of thousands of manufacturing jobs located in older factories that could not afford the millions in costs to retool to meet clean air standards and faced either shut down or movement to Mexico where little things like wages, air pollution, and clean water don't mean squat next to just plain having a job.
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He enacts legislation to protect our forests that mandates MORE logging and MORE clear cutting...
There is no more clear cutting since inudstry and govt standards mandated the replanting thing. So hello West Virginia, you get to have an economy no longer based soley on Federal Highway funds and the Robert Bird Memorial Incest Clinic and Pork Hatchery.
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Tries to eliminate overtime pay for hourly workers...
New standards never applied to blue collar workers, only white collar management. But it makes for a nice campaign issue. Still Cleveland School District has a $100 million deficit this year. A fair percentage is janitorial overtime, so maybe we need to take a look at blue collar workers too.
Don't get me wrong, I like overtime. But between overtime and health insurance, if I need to hire someone, I hope I'm close to a border.
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Worked in the Congress to defeat the Kyoto protocol...
Because the so called protocol only applied to the USA. Also, it makes no sense to priortize the enviroment in this enviroment. Not only are we cleaner then 10 years ago, but it makes no sense to place new burdens on domestic industry at a time when they are already under so much pressure to either fail completely or move to warmer climates.
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Voted against the abolition of land mines....
And for good reasons. Land mines have been an effective military weapon for decades. Our landmines are not the problem. Now if people die from stepping on them, then I say they are working properly.
I feel bad for unintentional victims, but I'd feel worse if our troops in Korea had to face a North Korean invasion without the landmines along our side of the DMZ. BTW, ever wonder why the mines in Korea are all on our side?
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Refuses to obey the Geneva convention in our completely lawless treatment of Afghan POWs (many American former POWs fear how nations will treat our soldiers in the future because we've invented something called enemy combatants (whatever the f*ck that is)
Actually this is a sticky issue. The POW's in question are not covered by the conventions because they are not soldiers, served no recognized govt, etc. They most closely resemble pirates, legally that is, not in appearence me hearty...agh, agh, agh.
The issue will soon be decided by the Supreme Court. I think those that served the Taliban should be treated as POWs and eventually returned to their homeland. Although 1 or 2 might need to be 'accidently' sucked through a large jet turbine.
Captured terrorists should be tried as such and given appropriate sentences.
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Over TWO MILLION jobs lost during his tenure...
On average the jobs that have been created during his reign have been for less than 60% of what the work used to be making... (don't just count jobs, count earning power)
ALGORE could have been in office and it still would have happened. I don't see the economic downturn that started in 1999 waking up to an ALGORE presidency and saying, gee lets not fire anybody today. It was the direct result of 8 years of no energy
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