Our President
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UPDATED: Wednesday, May 21, 2025 16:36
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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
There is an "ethnic" French now? There's language French, Nation French, Country French, (and thank God for the US of A) place French, Fries French, (of course) wine French, cheese French, and a couple of other things... What's this French ethnicity you speak of.... up until some years past the 100 year war - the French didn't even know they were French or such a thing as French... the Denmark, English, "French" were all too busy interbreeding each other to figure out these Ethnicity and too worry about the daily bread to figure out Nationality.
There's a new game called "Crusader Kings" by Paradox Entertainment out of Sweden. Try it, I think you'd like it.
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OK, now that everyone's making fun of the French, it's not cool enough anymore. I have to find a NEW country to be prejudiced against. Hey - I've got it! The BELGIANS!! Yeah! And my new catchphrase will be
Fat Ugly Belgian Húndàn (being a family board and all.....)
With much thanks to the eternal Pythons!
MAL "You only gotta scare him."
JAYNE "Pain is scary..."
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Oh boy.. Ruxton. I'm really doubting that you are someone with whom I should be talking. You seem a little.. paranoid isn't quite extreme enough a word. But I'm going to attempt to answer your.. odd reply as best I can.
In regard to letsroll911 website, it is absolutely fringe nutty. I saw these kinds of conspiracy theories coming out of France immediately after 911 before they had any supposed photographic proof. This tells me that there is a cause and effect relationship to these theories, that they thought up this scenario based on their prejudice and sought even the barest of corroboration and accepted such as proof. Any blurry pixel became a missile.. any fuzzy blob a plot to make poor unfortunate Muslims look bad.
As for the pictured "evidence", I'm afraid it's just not there. I don't see missiles they claim to show. They are making something out of nothing. The fact that people go to the site I believe can be explained by the fact that it is so outlandish as to be unbelievable to most people.. they pull the site up and gawk.. incredulously. They think like I did, "who in their right mind would believe this stuff much less make a web page about it?" The justice dept or any other agency going to the site could be interpreted the same way or could be a sign that they are hoping to find some way to shut the offensive and tasteless site down.
That you recite the web page's vacuous claims as if they are fact tells me that you are too easily sucked in to conspiracy bs.. and I'll probably not be able to help you. I have a friend who is almost as far gone as you are. He sees the city dump and calls it a 'compound' used secretly by the government. He sees contrails a jet is leaving in the sky and says it's some kind of a chemical the government is using to control us. There's a lot more that he's obsessed with.. but I believe he and you could possibly be helped by some medication and life long therapy.
I just don't believe Bush would sit by and let something like the 9/11 attack happen if he had really known it was going to happen. To say that he would is ludicrous hated showing. I dislike Bill Clinton as an unethical, lying, and philandering fool but I would have a hard time believing that even he could do something like you've described here.
I accept that you think you are not liberal.. but your attitudes and stance are so far from conservative that I have to think of you as being in the far far left.
I do not believe your claims that our administration is the most corrupt in history.. not even just the history of the US.. there were other amazing corruptions in the past if you take some time with history.. which it seems unlikely you've done given your statement about corruption. Do you know what separation of powers is? Do you understand why it's important? Or does it not matter now because a republican is in office?
"There are but two classes of people in the world, those who are informed and those who are not. I am glad to see that most respondents in this forum ARE informed."
I would add a third type of person as an extreme subtype of the 'informed people", those would be the type who believe everything they read on the internet.
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Good morning...
So yesterday morning I mentioned richardecheandia's sound bite of Rumsfeld lying, claiming that neither he nor the president had said that Saddam Hussein was an immediate threat to the U.S. and then being shown that at an earlier time he had said precisely that there was "no more immediate threat to the U.S. or the world than Saddam Hussein." I mentioned that the fellas who'd been making all that noise higher up in this thread paraphrasing Rumsfeld saying that the liberal media had made it all up--the administration had never said Saddam Hussein was an immediate threat to the U.S.-- these fellas I said, had made themselves scarce.
Then hero posted about the terrible toll the environmentalists have taken on the economy and I quipped that he musta forgot the part about Rumsfeld being caught in a lie.
Okay, then hero responded (after a fashion) by reiterating that Saddam tortured a lot of people.
I wish I could remember my forensic league days more clearly because there's a name for that kind of misdirection. Someone makes a valid point and the opposition totally sidesteps the issue and brings up some horrible crime that supports their argument. The first guy says, "But that's irrelevant," and the opposition cries, "How can you say that this horrible crime is irrelevant?!?!"
Gawd, I hated forensic league, 'cause that's all it ever was. Hit and run artists perfecting their craft.
Anyway, here's what it's made me think about: after 9/11 America was filled with rage. We, as a people, wanted to lash out and hurt someone. So when the president says Afghanistan, we said, "Hayull yeah!" But after pummelling those poor devils even further into the dust than the Russians had before us, we were still angry. Afghanistan was too easy, it was like making your little sister cry. We felt no relief and we certainly didn't feel any safer. So when the president said Iraq, we said, "Now, that's what I'm talkin' 'bout!" And we laid the proverbial "smack down" on Bagdhad.
But what I'm seeing now, as Bush's approval ratings continue to fall, is that America isn't so pissed off anymore. After all, we're essentially good, kind people and we don't like to murder tens of thousands of innocent folk. "We hadda do something!" and we did, and now we're paying for it. I think that's why Bush is not going to be reelected. Not so much because people oppose his policies or were against the war, but because we Americans really don't like to think of ourselves as aggressive bullies ("We're the good guys!"). So we'll sacrifice Bush and scapegoat him for the mess in Iraq, so that we can go on thinking that we're good and kind.
Just a thought...
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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Blaming the French was an old comedy gag from the 80s. Since American culture eats itself like a blood caked zombie, this joke appeared over and over in various forms over the years. It became a standard joke common to most comedians.
Two decades later, when France decided rightly not to send thier troops into Iraq there was an upsurge in 'anti-French' sentiment in the USA. Freedom Fries and all that. Not sure if it was Limbaugh or whoever started that craze... anyho'...
... it just goes to show how hurtful, incestuous, and insane, American culture is. Reading certain posts above I gotta wonder if lobotomies are dirt cheap below the 49th. 
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... it just goes to show how hurtful, incestuous, and insane, American culture is. Reading certain posts above I gotta wonder if lobotomies are dirt cheap below the 49th.
Isn't this statement the same type of stereotypical nonsense you are opposed to from some Americans about the French above?
Seems to me that maybe the U.S. has not cornered the market on stereotypes.
Just sayin'.
"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."
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I don't hate the French, I don't hate the people, the country, or the land. I like French Fries, French wine, cheese, etc, etc. But that flippant "Idiot Americane" attitude I can do without. Seems like some (not just the French themselves) think that the French have the market cornered on having an attitude. So, with every ounce of strength and will that I have - I *hate* "The French" - but there's not much point in it - hating them more just makes them surrender even more.
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Originally posted by Ghoulman:
... it just goes to show how hurtful, incestuous, and insane, American culture is. Reading certain posts above I gotta wonder if lobotomies are dirt cheap below the 49th.
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Doran, thank you for your time. I appreciate your thoughtful response. Because of that, I'll briefly (fat chance!) attempt to respond to your response.
Maybe I can do so by examining just one point you mentioned, about a friend of yours:
"He sees contrails a jet is leaving in the sky and says it's some kind of a chemical the government is using to control us." This suggests you doubt anything like that can be going on, and also hints at a blind trust in government. I doubted anything like aerosol spraying could be happening myself, at first, because we are all conditioned from a very young age to trust our government, and all of its agencies. Such a thing seemed to be absurd.
While I don't know the INTENT, there is no doubt that aircraft are putting aerosols into the atmosphere on a regular basis. This may be confirmed by watching the sky, and may be verified by looking at satellite images that show the long=lasting trails as right-angle checkerboard patterns of thin clouds all over the country. The effect may also be seen in the jetstream pattern, which is distorted regularly into impossible configurations. It is one thing to jump to conclusions based on what someone tells you. That is the mark of the fool. It is quite another to look seriously into something, which often leads to conclusions that we may not want to accept, because they go against what we've been brought up to believe. It's easier to not want to know the truth, and most take that path.
I hope you will open your mind and look carefully at available facts instead of blindly clinging to rhetoric and establishment dicatates.
Contrary to your claim of believing everything I read on the Internet, I do quite the opposite. My education and experience has taught me to ask questions about EVERYTHING someone tries to tell me. To that end, I have spent countless hours over the past five years trying to find out what had, quite suddenly, caused my personal health to go into the cellar. This happened shortly after I moved to an area that was far from any city pollution, and is one of the most pristine-wilderness areas of the country. When I moved into my dream house, I naturally expected to breathe good air and experience good health in the latter part of my sixth decade. Instead, after a hike in fine, blue-sky weather that was marred by criss-crossed persistent contrails, I got deathly sick in my upper respiratory tract. I went looking for the cause.
More observations and more sickness over the succeeding months caused me to observe a close correlation between the trails in the sky and my breathing problems. It could surely not be that these clouds were causing my distress? I could not believe it. I went looking, photographing, observing, taking extensive notes, and even bought a microscope to look at the fallout from those aerosol trails. After nearly six years of intense observation, research, and after the deaths of three of my local friends from unexplained sudden lung problems, I came to the inescapable conclusion that these aerosols seemed to be a prime cause of my health problems. I have all the symptoms of barium poisoning, and it has been determined by other researchers (Note well: RESEARCHERS, not conspiracy theorists) that barium salts are part of the aerosols. There is no doubt these aerosols exist. There is huge doubt about their purpose.
If you have taken time to read this, thank you. I hope you realize that I'm not afraid of trying to find out things, no matter how unpopular they may be. By now, I hope you perceive that I don't take anything at face value, and surely don't believe everything I read on the Internet. While I normally take statements such as yours as gross insults, because they are indicative of a general lack of time spent looking into things and often of a grand lack of intelligence, I appreciated your taking time to respond, and sincerely hope this does not insult you. Instead, I hope it causes you, or perhaps other readers, to open your minds, to shut down your fears, to question your entrenched beliefs, and to as
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I have to agree with Browncoat1, it's best to avoid talking politics or religions with friends and family...
but..I'm also a patriotic American who hates to see America's defense and armed forces politicized and ridiculed, and to see those on the outside of the country acting like they have any better knowledge of what's going in the world. Unfortunately the majority of the dribble normally fed to those of us who sit in the majority (centrist minded folks), is exactly that..100% pure dribble.
I'm very well read. I make up my own mind, built upon information and personal research, from many reliable non-propagandist publications.
I'm familiar with the many UN resolutions against Israel, against Iraq (12 years worth..but hey..ya know , we didnt give Saddam a chance to comply). I've read the majority of them. I'm familiar with the fact that we shook the hand of Saddam and gave him WMD's (yet they don't and never existed according to some), because we used the rationale that he was the lesser of the 2 evils (Iraq Vs. Iran).
I hate seeing one group say that Bush is the root of all that is Evil and Wrong with the world, regardless of who commits the crimes. I hate seeing the Right blame everything that has occurred up to and including 9/11 on the Clinton Administration.
Regardless of all that has been said, the main thing that has been constantly placed on the wayside,all in the name of who won or lost the last election and the bad feelings that followed, is the fact that Militant Islamafascism, is evil. I didn't say Islam, I said Islamafascism and the horrific ilk that it spawns. Only they are to blame for what they have brought down upon themselves and their children.
I watched CNN the other day, and saw a Palestinian say " Our Children were born to be Martyrs". Here's to hoping he doesn't get his wish. Sadly however, I see that as inevitable.
Unfortunately, in the Middle East diplomacy is viewed as a weakness. Only brute force is accepted as Strength. Here's to hoping democracy gains a foothold.
God Bless America and her Sons and Daughters abroad, and may those who seek her destruction come to a painful demise.
If you don't like our President, Democratic, Republican or whatever is left(Shivers..no pun intended).."Tough dookey". They are still Our President, and I'm gonna support them 100% when it comes to defending our Homeland and supporting our Sons and daughters abroad.
If thats not good enough, well, In the proverbial words of Monty Python's Frenchman " I flaunt my genitals in your generale directionne!!"
As for France , well..we'll have to wait and see how this so-called "Oil for Food" probe pans out.
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Originally posted by Ruxton:
There are but two classes of people: those who are afraid to seek the truth; and those who MUST know it, no matter how contrary to established ideas it may be, and no matter how fearsome.
I think I'll steer clear of the political discussion. I'd just like to add some categories of people to the above.
There are those that will passively acquire knowledge.
There are those that will seek knowledge from time to time, but, no constant thirst.
Just saying that there are areas of grey when it comes to pretty much everything. The world is very rarely black and white.
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