Pakistan's Bhutto Killed in Attack
POSTED BY: deadlockvictim
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 14, 2026 16:40
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All Righty then! Just a brief commercial break in the ongoing debate on whether America is really Amerika, (it isn't but I promised not to say that, oops, I said it, but I didn't mean to, does that count?)
Anyway, suddenly there's a lot of hoopla (is that a word, btw?) over medical reports and such like in Bhutto's death. And I noticed that before the body is cold, both her husband and son have offered themselves up as replacements for her.
Now it seems that the Bhutto government was *gasp* corrupt in some small ways, like lining their pockets with money that wasn't strictly there's and such like.
So, is she dead, or isn't she? And ain't is odd that a woman who knew she was being targeted was standing in the sunroof of an armored vehicle? Doesn't that sort of defeat the purpose of HAVING an armored vehicle?
In all honesty, I don't know that I'm really caring about this, since no 'democratic' Muslim government that I know of has ever been anything more than a dictator with an electoral college. And Omar Shariff was keeping a lid on the Paki's pretty well. . . . .no, it was Mumar Osharif. . .no that's not right either. ANyway,
What difference does it make, anyway? These people live in a barbaric culture, and have been killing each other in droves since. . .well, since. It won't matter who's in charge, that won't change, IMO.
We, as in the US, will never be friends with these people. We may be friends TO them, witness the tsunami relief, where a man with a shirt that said "I LOVE OSAMA" was videoed unloading relief supplies from a US NAVY chopper.
But they will never be OUR friends, no matter what we do, or don't do. Period. ANyone who thinks they will? Two words for ya;)
Crack Kills.
Bad_karma
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Damn Hero, when I try to make you look foolish, dogmatic, or blinded by your own biases - it really takes all the freakin fun out of it when you help me build the case!
Get off my side, curse it... it's MY job to make you look bad, and if ya keep leaving me nothin to do, I may be downsized from the ministry as a surplus position and prolly outsourced to china!
You don't want some chinese dude flaming you in broken english do ya ?
Quit helpin me make ya look like a twit then.
Oh.. yeah...
Happy New Year.
..Berk.
-F
*Get back to me when you can actually refute any of it, eh ?
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BK, I may not necessarily agree with your entire assessment, but I think we can find the common ground here in the fact that sticking OUR nuts in that wringer is a damn stupid thing to do and we should worry about more important issues since it's not our country nor are we responsible for it, or to it.
Trade with em, sure... stick our necks out to meddle in their internal affairs ? hell no.
-F
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Quote:First give me the evidence that you stopped beating your girlfriend.
Originally posted by Hero:
So before you go dismissing your case how about some evidence these programs are not working.
I'm sure some attacks that could have actually killed some folk have been stopped, but not because of some sweeping "War On Terror"; it was through good intel- you don't need a nation stirred up into a pro-torture frenzy to accomplish that.
Biped.
Mean Chrisisall
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Quote:*snort*
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Biped.
Fred - Yeah, I'm lovin how I accuse Hero of mistaking TV for real life, then he uses a TV show as a statement about real life. (Was he serious? Really? It's just not possible...)
Happy New Year all. May we make it through the next one with a little more sanity up top.
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hmm-burble-blah, blah-blah-blah, take a left
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Actually, I will amend my argument on Paki for one reason, and that is the fact that have a nuclear arsenal. I really feel better with Umbar Whazitstuf in charge, than a woman dumb enough to ride around with her head out the sunroof, knowing she's a target. It's in our best interest to ensure stability in these Islooney countries that have the neither confirm nor deny ability. Other than that, I'll stand by the other.
No nukes? No cares;)
Bad_karma
Great and Exalted Grand Pooba, International Brotherhood of Moonshiners, Rednecks, and Good Old Boys.
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While I realize that the thread has somewhat drifted, I did find this rather interesting news article a little while ago.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080101/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_pakistan
Seems that Mister Bhutto, who was, interestingly enough, in charge of security for the 'little woman', had recieved not only credible intel from the US about an attempt on the Queen, or whatever she was, but had ALSO been given some rather sage advice by both brit and us officials concerning security measures that should be taken if Mrs Pakistan was intent on keeping up her schedule.
And now he and the son, who says that the "Bhutto name is everything to me now", are volunteering themselves as the new 'leaders' of Mrs Democracy, But Not Really's party.
Curiouser and Curiouser
Bad_karma
Great and Exalted Grand Pooba, International Brotherhood of Tailgaters, Gator Haters, Fried Taters, and good, cold, beer
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Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:
I note for the record that all US Special Forces troops are subject to waterboarding during their training process and that captured military personel are lucky if waterboarding is the least they get. In the words of a Special Ops guy I know...waterboarding isnt something worth losing your head over...especially when the alternative is losing your head.
H
Hello,
The torturous impact of waterboarding might possibly be mitigated by the following factors in the case of a SpecOps candidate:
1) You volounteered to be waterboarded.
2) Friendlies are doing the waterboarding.
3) You know the waterboarding will end soon.
4) You know the people waterboarding you want you to live intact through the experience.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Yet another very interesting story on Bhutto's death,
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/pakistan-backtracks-on-sunroof-claims/200
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I'm telling you, when it's all said and done, the husband did it.
And now he's crying that he want American to help him find who killed his wife. Just like the 'normal' wife killers scream at the police to quit pointing the finger at him, and find the real killers.
Course, sometimes they're innocent, but then, they don't stand to inherit a political party, and a wave of sympathy votes on the eve of a national election.
I've already broken one of my new year's resolutions, and it's still new year's day. I'm hopeless.
Bad_karma
Great and Exalted Grand Pooba, International Association of New Year's Resolution Breakers and Political Cynics
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