Pakistan's Bhutto Killed in Attack

POSTED BY: deadlockvictim
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 14, 2026 16:40
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Originally posted by Hero:
The reason for no sequel is because they couldn't line up the actors (who are all dead or in Gitmo...except Bin Ladden who's in rehab), the financing hit a snag, no studio support, and there's a lot of counter programming.

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Hey, LOL, not bad, H!

But I'm lookin' forward to Bin Laden starring in the remake of Scanners when he gets out of rehab- I really wanna see the dude's head explode.

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Did anyone hear Bhutto's interview by (Sir) David Frost? In it, she clearly names one person as being involved in bin Laden's murder. Funny, but Frost never followed up on that.


FREM: Scary article. I think everyone should read it.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Freaky, innit ?

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I especially love this part.

"People who hate The People never sleep. In 2006 Congress passed the National Defense Authorization Act, which overturns the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which prohibited the use of combat troops on the soil of the United States. For the first time in 128 years, the president can declare martial law in case of a hurricane, riot or terrorist attack."

So, after bitching about how Pres. Bush didn't use the military to help during and after Katrina, despite the fact that he was constrained by law from doing so, they're now bitching because Congress is allowing him the power to do what the Katrina bitchers wanted him to do in the first place.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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I think you have it wrong Geezer. People didn't complain so much about not using the "military" as much as they bitched about not using the National Guard... which is a different matter altogether.

But it's very much in keeping with this President's MO to use an incident to push forward unrelated limits on our freedoms.

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Originally posted by Geezer:


So, after bitching about how Pres. Bush didn't use the military to help during and after Katrina,

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Oh yeah, you can go back to the Katrina threads and see that we all wanted martial law declared in NO...why I myself bitched about how if the military was allowed to shoot at the rising water level, it would have receded- yeah, Army, Navy- we wanted it all.
Biped.


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Meanwhile... The current Administration was looking pretty hard to dump Musharraf in favor of someone more cooperative. I doubt that Benazir Bhutto would have made much of a difference to the average Pakistani; her earlier government was marked by corruption and stagnation. But she was Bush's choice* and would have relied on/ allowed a freer foreign hand, possibly even so far as to allow the USA to rout the Pakistani Interservice Intelligence (ISI), which has been coddling fundamentalist groups for decades in return for a cut of the opium trade.

I think that either Musharraf or the ISI -or both- figured that their days were numbered and that Benazir was a serious threat.

* If our administration had not been for her, the press reaction to her death would not have been weeping and wailing. It would have been a celebration.


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Originally posted by SignyM:
I think you have it wrong Geezer. People didn't complain so much about not using the "military" as much as they bitched about not using the National Guard... which is a different matter altogether.

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The President couldn't use the Federalized National Guard within the US prior to this legislation. That was reserved for the States.

Here's the section of the legislation, just so you know.

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SEC. 1076. USE OF THE ARMED FORCES IN MAJOR PUBLIC EMERGENCIES.


(a) Use of the Armed Forces Authorized-

(1) IN GENERAL- Section 333 of title 10, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:

`Sec. 333. Major public emergencies; interference with State and Federal law

`(a) Use of Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies- (1) The President may employ the armed forces, including the National Guard in Federal service, to--

`(A) restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition in any State or possession of the United States, the President determines that--

`(i) domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order; and

`(ii) such violence results in a condition described in paragraph (2); or

`(B) suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such insurrection, violation, combination, or conspiracy results in a condition described in paragraph (2).

`(2) A condition described in this paragraph is a condition that--

`(A) so hinders the execution of the laws of a State or possession, as applicable, and of the United States within that State or possession, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State or possession are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or

`(B) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.

`(3) In any situation covered by paragraph (1)(B), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.

`(b) Notice to Congress- The President shall notify Congress of the determination to exercise the authority in subsection (a)(1)(A) as soon as practicable after the determination and every 14 days thereafter during the duration of the exercise of that authority.'.

(2) PROCLAMATION TO DISPERSE- Section 334 of such title is amended by inserting `or those obstructing the enforcement of the laws' after `insurgents'.

(3) HEADING AMENDMENT- The heading of chapter 15 of such title is amended to read as follows:

`CHAPTER 15--ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAWS TO RESTORE PUBLIC ORDER'.

(4) CLERICAL AMENDMENTS- (A) The tables of chapters at the beginning of subtitle A of title 10, United States Code, and at the beginning of part I of such subtitle, are each amended by striking the item relating to chapter 15 and inserting the following new item:
331'.


(B) The table of sections at the beginning of chapter 15 of such title is amended by striking the item relating to sections 333 and inserting the following new item:

`333. Major public emergencies; interference with State and Federal law.'.

(b) Provision of Supplies, Services, and Equipment-

(1) IN GENERAL- Chapter 152 of such title is amended by adding at the end the following new section:

`Sec. 2567. Supplies, services, and equipment: provision in major public emergencies

`(a) Provision Authorized- In any situation in which the President determines to exercise the authority in section 333(a)(1)(A) of this title, the President may direct the Secretary of Defense to provide supplies, services, and equipment to persons affected by the situation.

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