Pakistan's Bhutto Killed in Attack
POSTED BY: deadlockvictim
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 14, 2026 16:40
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Quote:Oh, well, if the government said something they did worked, then I guess it must be proof enough, I mean, why would they lie?
Originally posted by Hero:
And you can't tell me it doesn't work because the govt has told us it has worked
Your argument wouldn't hold up in court, councilor...
Judge Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Kirkules:
Damned Romans, what have they ever done for us. "All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?"
Orgies, toga parties, great subject matter for movies, the word "decimate", and large scale sports venues.
H
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Your argument wouldn't hold up in court, councilor...
Not in the face of countless evidence to the contrary...hmm...must have misplaced the evidence to the contrary.
Tell me, when was the last successful terrorist attack on American soil? Oh, thats right, back in September...of 2001.
H
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Quote:So that proves interrogation techniques work? Laughable logic, I could say it proves that a butterfly farted in Siberia 1,000,000 years ago with the same assured thinking.
Originally posted by Hero:
Tell me, when was the last successful terrorist attack on American soil? Oh, thats right, back in September...of 2001.
Apart from video documentation (Ooops, they accidentally got rid of that, didn't they?) linked to captured or killed terrorists, you assertion is hearsay at best.
Case dismissedisall
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Quote:They certainly know how to keep order. Let's face it. They're the only ones who could in a place like this.
Originally posted by Kirkules:
Damned Romans, what have they ever done for us. "All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?"
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Quote:But our courts and laws make a distinction between foreign agents (spies) and citizens. So you can do all the spying you want on foreigners but not on citizens.
in most cases I'd agree. If you're going for evidence leading to charges and a trial, then of course. If you're attempting to stop an attack in progress, not so much. Also not sure how you could get a warrant for, say, NSA computers doing keyword, voiceprint and voice-stress analysis of all international phone calls.
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Always look upstream.
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And here I was set to read about Bhutto's deathandall. Silly me,
Bad_karma
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As for spying on citizens, none of which even touches the fact that they were doing so, illegally, dragnet-style, at least 7 months prior to 9-11, so that excuse falls flat right there.
Nor has anyone else raised the proven history of such agencies spying on, harrassing, murdering and railroading american citizens nonstop throughout their entire existance, trafficking drugs, meddling in foreign governments (WHO originally financed OBL, I ask you?) and yet somehow, never ever managing even once to perform their primary, supposedly-intended purpose.
So umm, tell me again who the terrorists are ?
I have yet to see even one whit of evidence proving exactly which organisation or collective thereof committed the acts on 9-11, every bit of it has totally come apart... a so called pilot who couldn't fly a cessna, so called hijackers later found alive and well somewhere else, we have been offered NO proof whatever, just a pack of assumptions strung together by folks with utterly no credibility (and how bout them WMDs, eh?) spinning us some story blaming some jackass on their own payroll (Tim Osman, look it up) who denies any involvement in the only interview confirmed to be the dude in question, followed by some laughable tapes of some yutz who can't even speak the language properly and doesn't even look like him claiming the opposite... uh huh, suuure.
And let's not even go there about trusting MEMRI to translate anything for you...
So, no evidence, and six tons of bullshit from known liars with a history of backstabbing the people they work for more than anything else, and I am just supposed to buy this shit cause F*X news and so-called journalists who ADMITTED to taking bribes to write shill pieces tell me to ?
Get REAL.
And yet, on the other hand...
AJAX
NORTHWOODS
GARDEN PLOT
REX 84
CONPLAN 300/400
MKULTRA
BLUEBIRD
ARTICHOKE
MONARCH
CHATTER
COINTELPRO
GRANITE SHADOW
ECHELON
CARNIVORE
OMNIVORE
Oh my, the list goes on and on, hard, solid courtroom quality evidence, of our own so-called "protectors" fucking us over again and again far worse than any pathetic terrorista 3000 miles away could ever DREAM of.
Always holding up some "scare" that in the end has ALWAYS turned out to complete and total bullshit.
From the "Bugbears" of the post revolutionary era, to the spectre of the unions collapse, through both red scares and HUAC and now terrorism, subbing in drugs or financial meltdown when they have no other horror to scare us into submission with, yeah, right, such nice guys, always on our side, suuuure.
So on the one hand I am looking at a pack of jerks who are a KNOWN, PROVEN threat with a history of terrorism against american citizens, pointing the finger at some other bunch of jerks with a KNOWN, PROVEN history of terrorism against prettymuch everybody, and shovelling a story that fell apart as concocted bullshit almost immediately, and I am supposed to believe either set of these shitheads ?
And now they wanna be allowed to use tactics right out of the damned inquisition to get confessions, on anyone they damn well please ?
Are you NUTS ?
Name ONE major threat or attack these agencies have EVER stopped... go on, TRY.
And please note the laughable ones they've held up in the press, almost exclusively plain fiction or cooked up by an intel agent in the first place... or even executed by one, eh ?
How bout asking where the perps who bombed the WTC basement got the plans and the explosives eh ?
That'd be a start and my-oh-my, where does THAT trace back to, hmm ?
FACE THE EVIDENCE.
The jerks begging for permission to do this crap are in fact the single worst threat of terrorism on american soil, against american citizens, on the freakin planet, and if yer gonna question someone via waterboarding, it oughta be THEM you start with.
Does anyone else see the utter STUPIDITY of paying these yucks huge amounts of tax money and letting them run wild in spite of the fact that they do not, can not, or will not, perform their intended function, and commit more horro
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Apart from video documentation (Ooops, they accidentally got rid of that, didn't they?)
Yeah, like they'd ever have allowed those videos out for you to see. You folks can't stomach people being tasered. Your delicate sensibilities would never be able to handle watching interrogations.
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linked to captured or killed terrorists, you assertion is hearsay at best.
Actually its known as Circumstancial evidence. Legally that type of evidence is very effective.
For example, direct evidence can show a person had a blood alcohol level over the legal limit and the person was found behind the wheel of a wrecked car, that person can be found guilty of drunk driving despite the fact nobody saw them driving.
Another legal example is used by the Judges to explain this type of evidence to the Jury. If you go into the building at noon and its all dry outside and you go out at 1pm and its all wet, then you can assume based upon circumstancial evidence that it rained between 12 and 1.
9/11 happened, then we started doing the things we do to stop stuff like that, no successful attacks since (and a number of high or no profile failures). Unless you can prove otherwise a reasonable person (good luck finding one on the left these days) can find that the anti-terrorist programs have been largely responsible for preventing further attacks.
So before you go dismissing your case how about some evidence these programs are not working.
H
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
As for spying on citizens, none of which even touches the fact that they were doing so, illegally, dragnet-style, at least 7 months prior to 9-11, so that excuse falls flat right there.
Yeah right. And what flavor cool aid do you mix your crazy with?
Januay 20, 2001.
Bush- "Ok, first order of business, lets start spying on all the people in America. How soon can we have that up?"
Condi- (Pushes button on laptop) "Done, what are we looking for?"
Bush- "Oh, all the really dangerous stuff. Make sure they flag referrences to Little League Baseball on the White House lawn, any mention of No Child Left Behind, how people are spending their tax rebate check...oh, and make sure to pay special attention to attractive female Democratic
Congressional Interns on the off chance any go missing."
Condi- "What about Islamic Jihadists?'
Bush- "No, Clinton took care of all those, nothing to worry about there. Thank goodness Bill Clinton managed the hard stuff like the Oil shortage, terrorism, and left us a robust economy and military capable of fighting off just about any war he could imagine."
Condi- "Yeah, makes our job easy."
Bush- "Oh, and make sure to put that special detail on that PirateNews fella...Queen Elizabeth wants him to meet one of those Gangsta Govt Commie-Jew Nazi Death Squads we have posing as the Tennessee State Highway Patrol...don't kill him though...just give him a speeding ticket. That should REALLY confuse him."
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So umm, tell me again who the terrorists are ?
They are most distinguishable by the vests they wear.
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I have yet to see even one whit of evidence proving exactly which organisation or collective thereof committed the acts on 9-11, every bit of it has totally come apart...so called hijackers later found alive and well somewhere else
So called Crazytalkers talkin crazy and then being cited by other Crazytalkers as proof because nobody bothers to refute the absurd.
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So, no evidence, and six tons of bullshit from known liars with a history of backstabbing the people they work for more than anything else, and I am just supposed to buy this shit cause F*X news and so-called journalists who ADMITTED to taking bribes to write shill pieces tell me to ?
Are you an Obama supporter? Maybe not you...one of your other personalities.
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AJAX
NORTHWOODS
GARDEN PLOT
REX 84
CONPLAN 300/400
MKULTRA
BLUEBIRD
ARTICHOKE
MONARCH
CHATTER
COINTELPRO
GRANITE SHADOW
ECHELON
CARNIVORE
OMNIVORE
Not to mention VIAGRA and CHICK FIL'A (which are oddly good when mixed together).
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And now they wanna be allowed to use tactics right out of the damned inquisition to get confessions, on anyone they damn well please ?
HEY! This is the 21st Century. We're much better at this then the inquisition. Its digital.
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Name ONE major threat or attack these agencies have EVER stopped... go on, TRY.
Well there's...
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And please note the laughable ones they've held up in the press, almost exclusively plain fiction or cooked up by an intel agent in the first place... or even executed by one, eh ?
Ok, so you only want me to name ones that have not been released. Ok, there is the plot to [CENSORED]. There, THAT one is undeniable.
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You wanna fight terrorism, and ensure the safety and protection of the people, how bout starting with serious, known, proven threats closer to home...
You know, like Langely, VA, for starters.
Ok. Everybody in Langely pack it up and go home. There, now America is safe...for terrorists. Thanks.
I note for the record that if America is the evil you think it is you'll be dead by morning...death squads. Should you survive to rant again, then you prove my argument...that your just a bit off base as to who the enemy is. Should you in fact be tracked down and murdered by a death squad dispatched from L
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