Best movie of the 21st Century.
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Quote:It's just that a sci-fi or fantasy movie has (generally speaking) a higher repeat viewing factor, and purchase rate on DVD, IMO. So even if outperformed at the box office, total take can be greater. Although this is no rule.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
But a non-genre fiction movie does seem likely to outperform a scifi genre movie - all else being equal.
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Quote:Yes. It’s not nearly as straight forward a comparison as I thought. And I’m not really much of an expert on this stuff either.
Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:And this wasn't always the case; remember the sci-fi dry spell in the seventies?
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
However, I still think you may be right because sci-fi as a genre seems to outperform other genres in popularity.
Aside from Silent Running, Westworld, A Boy And His Dog, and Soylent Green, '72 - '76 was pretty thin, then Logan's Run came in as only a modest hit. It was Star Wars that made it all possible.
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Quote:But this doesn’t really add to the popularity. Like a lot of scifi/fantasy geeks, I tend to watch a scifi/fantasy movies several times. I’ve seen the Golden Compass twice already. If most scifi fans do this, then the real popularity of the movie decreases fast with respect to movies that don’t have repeat viewership but similar gross sales.
Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:It's just that a sci-fi or fantasy movie has (generally speaking) a higher repeat viewing factor, and purchase rate on DVD, IMO. So even if outperformed at the box office, total take can be greater. Although this is no rule.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
But a non-genre fiction movie does seem likely to outperform a scifi genre movie - all else being equal.
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Quote:I stand corrected. I guess I'm talkin' about fanboy/girl stats then.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
But this doesn’t really add to the popularity.
Sci-fi/fantasy movies make stronger impressions (albeit in fewer individuals) than other non-genre films.
So actually, you seem to be correct upon examination. I must conclude that the majority of the public has not the intellectual capacity to enjoy what we at FFF.net consume as a matter of course.
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I love movie threads
I gotta say, as much as I love Serenity, its simply not my favourite film (I'm not even sure it'll be in my top ten)
That's not to say its bad, just that I enjoy other films more, and there are many other *great* films that I'd rather watch
Without further ado, here's some of my faves from the 21st century that I can watch no matter what mood I'm in:
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (all-time favourite)
Pieces of April
Spider-man Trilogy
Brick
Phantom of the Opera
Donnie Darko
Garden State
Superman Returns
Daredevil Directors Cut
And in the category of "great" films, albeit ones I probably won't watch as often (Serenity would come under these):
Transformers
Casino Royale
Amelie
Batman Begins
I Robot
The Last Samurai
Gladiator
Zoolander
Anchorman
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I just went back and looked at this list of the top grossing films, but this time adjusted for ticket price inflation, and only Star Wars and ET remain in the top ten. The others: Gone With the Wind, Sound of Music, the Ten Commandments, Titanic, Jaws, Doctor Zhivago, the Exorcist and Snow White. Out of the top 30 only about 8-10 are scifi. So the picture looks very different when you look at actual popularity as measure by ticket sales, as opposed to inflation.
However, I still think you may be right because sci-fi as a genre seems to outperform other genres in popularity. But a non-genre fiction movie does seem likely to outperform a scifi genre movie - all else being equal.
I think it's also worth noting that all those non-genre hits were all released before SciFi really broke through to the mainstream, and even more importantly, with the exception of Titanic, most were made before 1975.
So, those numbers seem to speak more to the diminished attendance levels and the impact of TV and home video, than to the popularity of the genre - since, again excepting Titanic, none of the highest ticket selling movies, regardless of genre, are from the last 30 years.
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Donnie Darko
Amelie
I Robot
Anchorman
Good collection of films. I'd forgotten about Donnie Darko - I love this film. Looking forward to seeing Richard Kelly's Southland Tales.
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I think it's way to early to be doing this thread. Let's all come back in about ninety years and start a new one ok? I will say that Transformers and Gladiator would never make my list of the top 50 movies of the last 8 years. Gladiator wouldn't break 200.
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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Looking forward to seeing Richard Kelly's Southland Tales.
It's been released, but crashed and burned very quickly. Most reviews, both critical, and from the audience, have been horrid. Which is too bad, I figured a movie by Kelly, with such an eclectic cast (where else ya gonna see Buffy, the Rock, Silent Bob and Connor MacLeod in one movie) would be interseting, at least.
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Originally posted by Storymark:
It's been released, but crashed and burned very quickly. Most reviews, both critical, and from the audience, have been horrid. Which is too bad, I figured a movie by Kelly, with such an eclectic cast (where else ya gonna see Buffy, the Rock, Silent Bob and Connor MacLeod in one movie) would be interseting, at least.
Figured it must have been released already, thanks, but where I live, in the country, we only really see the big blockbusters. Anything else I have to wait for DVD release. (Actually a Kino cinema opened up a few years ago and they do show more quirky stuff. Maybe I just missed it.)
Adverse reviews wont stop me giving it a go though. I remember the panning Brazil received all those years ago, and now look at it. It's regarded as a classic.
Still I'll reserve judgement until I've seen it.
Cheers Storymark.
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