Best movie of the 21st Century.
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Monday, November 18, 2024 23:41
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Even though we all know the 21st Century will end in 2012, don't you think this post is a little early in the making?
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Quote:It must be very puzzling to you then that sci-fi almost never matches the popularity of other forms of fiction?
Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Exactly my point- a movie that takes place in a particular time during real events gets appreciated for commenting on the events themselves, and those that are similar; sci-fi tends to comment on the nature of such events usually branching out even farther, extending the strength and appeal of the intended message.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I’m speaking to how widely that story will be appreciated?
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Quote:Star Wars, Terminator 2, Back To The Future, Armageddon, Day After Tomorrow, ET, X-Men, Jurassic Park, Matrix,...These seem to have made some kind of impression....
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
It must be very puzzling to you then that sci-fi almost never matches the popularity of other forms of fiction?
http://movies.go.com/boxoffice?cat=alltime
So there Chrisisall
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Quote:Point made. You may be right.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Star Wars, Terminator 2, Back To The Future, Armageddon, Day After Tomorrow, ET, X-Men, Jurassic Park, Matrix,...These seem to have made some kind of impression....
http://movies.go.com/boxoffice?cat=alltime
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:Although the argument can be made that these were hits NOT because of the sci-fi element, they are mostly, after all, "BIG EVENT' type movies...
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Point made. You may be right.
But the sci-fi is what brings me to the party, else I'd be a fan of Pearl Harbor and such (not).
I suspect many would like sci-fi that say they don't, if given the chance to really experience it, and these films allowed that accessibility.
Devil's Adv Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
It must be very puzzling to you then that sci-fi almost never matches the popularity of other forms of fiction?
Uh, Finn, have you looked at the list of highest grossing films? Aside from Titanic, and some Disney, the top 30 or so all all sci-fi or fantasy.
Er... nevermind, Chriss had it covered. Should finish the thread first next time.
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Quote:If you’re going to participate, try to keep up.
Originally posted by Storymark:Quote:Uh, Finn, have you looked at the list of highest grossing films? Aside from Titanic, and some Disney, the top 30 or so all all sci-fi or fantasy.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
It must be very puzzling to you then that sci-fi almost never matches the popularity of other forms of fiction?
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Yeah, I edited my last post once I finished the thread, just before your response.
But overall, I agree with Chriss on this one. The advantage of alegory is that it can address an issue, without being tied to one particular event, or interpretation of said issue.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Quote:I just went back and looked at this list of the top grossing films, but this time adjusted for ticket price inflation, and only Star Wars and ET remain in the top ten. The others: Gone With the Wind, Sound of Music, the Ten Commandments, Titanic, Jaws, Doctor Zhivago, the Exorcist and Snow White. Out of the top 30 only about 8-10 are scifi. So the picture looks very different when you look at actual popularity as measure by ticket sales, as opposed to inflation.
Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Although the argument can be made that these were hits NOT because of the sci-fi element, they are mostly, after all, "BIG EVENT' type movies...
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Point made. You may be right.
But the sci-fi is what brings me to the party, else I'd be a fan of Pearl Harbor and such (not).
I suspect many would like sci-fi that say they don't, if given the chance to really experience it, and these films allowed that accessibility.
However, I still think you may be right because sci-fi as a genre seems to outperform other genres in popularity. But a non-genre fiction movie does seem likely to outperform a scifi genre movie - all else being equal.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:And this wasn't always the case; remember the sci-fi dry spell in the seventies?
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
However, I still think you may be right because sci-fi as a genre seems to outperform other genres in popularity.
Aside from Silent Running, Westworld, A Boy And His Dog, and Soylent Green, '72 - '76 was pretty thin, then Logan's Run came in as only a modest hit. It was Star Wars that made it all possible.
Historical Chrisisall
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