Best movie of the 21st Century.
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Serenity for me.
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Finn mac Cumhal wrote:
Wednesday, December 12, 2007 11:44
Gladiator, Lord of the Rings, Passion of the Christ, Narnia were all better then Serenity.
Lord of the Rings was close. Gladiator wasn't terrible, although I despise Crowe. Narnia though? really? I guess that just shows we all have different tastes.
It seems you Finn like the taste of crap!
Just kidding with you. But really, Narnia?
Sorry.. didnt mean to be rude.
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Quote:Yes, Narnia, a non-crap movie. I loved Narnia. It was a great fantasy epic. I won’t say that it was as good as Lord of the Rings, but it was a movie that the whole family can enjoy, which increases its watching value. It told a powerful moving story of redemption through sacrifice, much as the book did, but it added dimension and depth, creating lovable characters with real personalities. It suffered from some of the same faults as Golden Compass with much of the meaning watered down to expand its appeal, but much like Golden Compass, the charm and adventure remains.
Originally posted by Calhoun:
Serenity for me.Quote:
Finn mac Cumhal wrote:
Wednesday, December 12, 2007 11:44
Gladiator, Lord of the Rings, Passion of the Christ, Narnia were all better then Serenity.
Lord of the Rings was close. Gladiator wasn't terrible, although I despise Crowe. Narnia though? really? I guess that just shows we all have different tastes.
It seems you Finn like the taste of crap!
Just kidding with you. But really, Narnia?
Sorry.. didnt mean to be rude.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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I would agree with:
Gladiator
Galaxy Quest
Constantine
Transformers
300
Sin City
Black Hawk Down
Flags of Our Fathers
Matrix Reloaded
Star Wars II: Attack of the Clones.
LOTR part 1
Bourne Identity
Lucky Number Slevin
Unbreakable
U-571
The Last Samurai
Da Vinci Code
National Treasure
Cast Away
Although in my favortie Movie Guide book, few of these get the 4 1/2 star rating that Serenity got. I know Gladiator only got 4.
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Quote:
Finn mac Cumhal wrote:
Wednesday, December 12, 2007 19:43
Yes, Narnia, a non-crap movie. I loved Narnia.
Really?
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Quote:I could see these on the list of Best Since 2000.
Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
300
Black Hawk Down
Flags of Our Fathers
Unbreakable
The Last Samurai
But not Galaxy Quest, it’s a 1999 movie.
The Star Wars movies, while I liked them all, were largely disappointments. They just didn't do it for me the way the first set did, which might have a lot more to do with my age than the movies. They would probably fall somewhere on this list, but I'd have to consider a lot of movies before I got there.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:Again, I disagree. That episode rises above any particular incident or era, and comments on the overall error of the very idea of racism itself.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
A Star Trek episode about two aliens with alternate black and white sides will never speak as directly to racism as a movie about racism between blacks and whites in the current day US.
Let That Be Your Last Battlefield showed a reason to end racism; Roots showed why we should despise it- that's the difference to me.
Lokaiisall
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Has anyone seen PERFUME - The Story of a murderer?
That is a fabulous film. It rivals SERENITY for title of best film of this century, thus far. Certainly has the greatest film score since Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon and Edward Scissorhands. It's a sublime film that utilises every aspect of cinema to tell it's story, and it's clearly told by someone with a love for the medium.
SERENITY in the long run wins it for me because I can just keep on watching it. Oh and those characters.. They're just so wonderful!
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Quote:I’m not saying that the episode didn’t do these things, but it’s still allegorical. Are you really disagreeing with me? Because I’m not speaking to the ability of sci-fi to tell a story, which seems to be what you are referring to, I’m speaking to how widely that story will be appreciated?
Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Again, I disagree. That episode rises above any particular incident or era, and comments on the overall error of the very idea of racism itself.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
A Star Trek episode about two aliens with alternate black and white sides will never speak as directly to racism as a movie about racism between blacks and whites in the current day US.
Let That Be Your Last Battlefield showed a reason to end racism; Roots showed why we should despise it- that's the difference to me.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:Exactly my point- a movie that takes place in a particular time during real events gets appreciated for commenting on the events themselves, and those that are similar; sci-fi tends to comment on the nature of such events usually branching out even farther, extending the strength and appeal of the intended message.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I’m speaking to how widely that story will be appreciated?
My brain hurts Chrisisall
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Well, here are my #1 movies from 2000 on.
2000-ALMOST FAMOUS
2001-LORD OF THE RINGS: FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING
2002-GANGS OF NEW YORK
2003-AMERICAN SPLENDOR
2004-GARDEN STATE*
2005-BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN
2006-BABEL
2007-GONE BABY GONE
*GARDEN STATE is actually so far my favorite movie of the decade. It has that ultra-rare quality of being a movie that makes you want to run out of your theater and change your life completely. It's a life-affirming flick, which oddly enough is a really rare quality nowadays.
I dunno. I find as I get older that I'm more drawn to subtle, less flashy movies about real life situations and people I can identify with. More indie stuff, although I do like spectacle for spectacle's sake. But in terms of pure emotion to filmmaking craft, I think the tub scene near the end of the movie is bar none the most powerful scene in a film so far this decade, with "Jack, I swear..." coming in a close second.
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