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POSTED BY: kaneman
UPDATED: Friday, November 9, 2007 02:01
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Hmm. This just makes me sad. I'm occasionally tempted by RWED threads, and this one had potential - I'd like to know a bit about Ron Paul. I'd like to hear a variety of opinions, from blues and reds and all those in between.
But - why is there always someone like Rap who ends up posting nothing but a vomit of anger and bitterness? More to the point - how did Kaneman get that "offensive" tag? I think Rap's last post earns him something like that. What was the point of it? Besides throwing insults and profanties? Was there something I missed? [Edit: I mean the post that included: "Stick to the facts or shut the fuck up. Stick a sock in your bloviating blow hole." Nice. Really. Are you in third grade by any chance?]
Rap - would you talk like this if your mom was in the room?
Whatever. I'm going back to the BSR world, where at least we're polite and respectful when we disagree. Maybe I'll check in here again in a month or so. Maybe Rap'll be on some good meds by then.
No wonder the RWED crowd is constantly shrinking.
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Originally posted by mal4prez:
But - why is there always someone like Rap who ends up posting nothing but a vomit of anger and bitterness? More to the point - how did Kaneman get that "offensive" tag? I think Rap's last post earns him something like that. What was the point of it? Besides throwing insults and profanties? Was there something I missed? [Edit: I mean the post that included: "Stick to the facts or shut the fuck up. Stick a sock in your bloviating blow hole." Nice. Really. Are you in third grade by any chance?
Rap - would you talk like this if your mom was in the room?
Just curious Mal, you happen to read Frem's post? Is it the content or the delivery of Au's post you find disagreeable?
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Quote:Ah, finally, something I can talk to, and maybe not lose my head.
Originally posted by mal4prez:
... More to the point - how did Kaneman get that "offensive" tag? ...
Because Kaneman can be really ... um... offensive. When he gets going, he can make sailors blush, and blow the steam pipes off a steam ship. And, obviously, someone complained. Apparently, he was rated bad enough to get a label rather than a ban. I don't know if there was a specific instance, but I've seen enough over the months to 'understand' how someone might complain about some of his posts.
Personally, I just ignore his swear words and dig out the content. He posts some good stuff. And some worthless stuff (but so do we all, eh?)
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Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:Does that spread equally in ALL directions?
It's not folks who are different that I dislike, it's when they use their differences as justification to rape, murder and destroy that which isn't deemed 'acceptable' to THEIR religion
Yep.
"Hillary tried to get a million dollars for the Woodstock museum. I understand it was a major cultural and pharmaceutical event. I couldn't attend. I was tied up at the time." - John McCain
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Oh, so citizen, you deny that little Christian girls were beheaded in the Philippines on their way to school by Muslm radicals? Or that Muslim radicals blow up crowds of innocent people, from Spain, England, Russia, Iraq, Pakistan, Egypt, Bali....pretty much all around the world.
You REALLY deny that, huh?
Seems the famous Chamberlain spirit of tucking tail and running away is still alive and well in jolly old England. Can't very well face a enemy when you close your eyes and pretend isn't there in the first place, now can you??
"Hillary tried to get a million dollars for the Woodstock museum. I understand it was a major cultural and pharmaceutical event. I couldn't attend. I was tied up at the time." - John McCain
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by mal4prez:
But - why is there always someone like Rap who ends up posting nothing but a vomit of anger and bitterness? More to the point - how did Kaneman get that "offensive" tag? I think Rap's last post earns him something like that. What was the point of it? Besides throwing insults and profanties? Was there something I missed? [Edit: I mean the post that included: "Stick to the facts or shut the fuck up. Stick a sock in your bloviating blow hole." Nice. Really. Are you in third grade by any chance?]
Rap - would you talk like this if your mom was in the room?
First of all, I speak hard, honest truth. That you wish things weren't as harsh as they really are, isn't my fault. Tell me it doesn't make you angry to see Muslim terrorist rape and murder almost 300 CHILDREN in Breslan, Russia. Tell me you're fine w/ the 100's of dead civillians in Spain and England , blown up on rail lines by - yes, Muslim terrorist. I'm sorry, but 9/11 was the last straw for me. After 10 yrs of having seen Muslim terrorist attack everything from Embassys, Apt Buildings, Night clubs and using airlines as missles, I'm not going to lay down and left folks forget who it is that's doing these crimes. Theo Van Gogh died because he was making a film about the real abuses of muslim women at the hands of their fundamentalist muslim men. And you call MY post "nothing but a vomit of anger and bitterness?" . \
You have to be kidding me!
I only respond to folks w/ profanity when THEY start off w/ the vulgarity, not I. Sorry, but I'm not a fan of being referred to as a " fucktard " simpy because the writer doesn't like my point of view. He/she can piss off, for all I care, but of course you won't address those who hurl the stones first, now will you? I wonder why that is. Hmmm.
And as for my mom, she knew me as well as anyone. She knew I didn't speak up unless I had something I wanted heard. And she knew of my temper, that if I was pushed far enough, there's no place anyone can hide to escape me. Not proud of it, and there are times when I wish I wasn't like that, but somethimes when what's right is right, it needs to be said. Even if I go too far and end up alienating those who might see my point of view, I don't care. Another reason why I'll never run for political office.
"Hillary tried to get a million dollars for the Woodstock museum. I understand it was a major cultural and pharmaceutical event. I couldn't attend. I was tied up at the time." - John McCain
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You REALLY deny that, huh?
Seems the famous Chamberlain spirit of tucking tail and running away is still alive and well in jolly old England. Can't very well face a enemy when you close your eyes and pretend isn't there in the first place, now can you??
No, we just chose not to let fear cause us to make irrational generalisations. Since you brought up the war, do you really believe that all German's were Nazi's just because some of them were? Of course not.
Al Queda, even by the most generous estimates has fewer that 100,000 members, fewer than the active number of Nazi party members in Germany during WW2. If we can accept that not all German's are Nazi's then why think all Muslims are Jihadists?
There is a certain type of angry person that sees themselves as persecuted and are prone to radicalisation. These people gravitate towards groups with similar beliefs, that's where you get your brown shirts, your Bader-Meinhoff, your Ba'athists, your Jihadists, Klansmen, and white supremisist militia nutjobs from. They are the same kind of person they share the same kind of mental defect, they are attracted to specific groups only because of culture or opertunty but are otherwise interchangable. If you REALLY think that every Muslim is your enemy because of a handfull of their nuts then you should have bombed the shit out of every trailer park and redneck hangout south of the mason-Dixie line after Oklahoma City.
The best way to deal with this situation is to beat the crap out of the guilty when you can find them and keep a sensible sense of proportion otherwise. Worse two things you can do is live in fear and let that fear make you do stuff that's stupid.
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Quote:This citizen-strawman seems to make some really dumb arguments. But then arguments made by real people can be tricky, best to ignore them, am I right?
Originally posted by Auraptor
Oh, so citizen, you deny that little Christian girls were beheaded in the Philippines on their way to school by Muslm radicals? Or that Muslim radicals blow up crowds of innocent people, from Spain, England, Russia, Iraq, Pakistan, Egypt, Bali....pretty much all around the world.
You REALLY deny that, huh?
Quote:Your racist nationalism aside, this is a really dumb thing to say on so many levels. Britain never had to enter the second world war, a conflict so devastating we'll probably never fully recover from it. We entered into it because our ally was attacked, and we stood up to be counted.
Seems the famous Chamberlain spirit of tucking tail and running away is still alive and well in jolly old England. Can't very well face a enemy when you close your eyes and pretend isn't there in the first place, now can you??
Where was America while her allies were being over-run by one of the most evil regimes in history Au?
This isn't about appeasement, its not about shrinking back from the scourge of some fictional 'International Islam', its about recognising the real threats that are there, rather than focusing on fictional bogey men. Though I'm sure that somewhere between the screen and your head, my argument will be strawmanned into something barely recognisable.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Quote:It's not an issue of allowing fear causing me to make irrational generalizations, but FACTS making accurate ones. Why can't you see this for what it truly is, instead of trying to wrap it up in a Politically Correct blankie, making it look far less senister than it really is ?
Originally posted by Fletch2:
No, we just chose not to let fear cause us to make irrational generalisations. Since you brought up the war, do you really believe that all German's were Nazi's just because some of them were? Of course not.
Quote:You're not listening to what I'm saying.
Al Queda, even by the most generous estimates has fewer that 100,000 members, fewer than the active number of Nazi party members in Germany during WW2. If we can accept that not all German's are Nazi's then why think all Muslims are Jihadists?
Quote:Again, are you intentionally taking my words out of context and confusing my position, or is this some sort of defense mechanism you're displaying, unaware that you're even doing it ?
There is a certain type of angry person that sees themselves as persecuted and are prone to radicalisation. These people gravitate towards groups with similar beliefs, that's where you get your brown shirts, your Bader-Meinhoff, your Ba'athists, your Jihadists, Klansmen, and white supremisist militia nutjobs from. They are the same kind of person they share the same kind of mental defect, they are attracted to specific groups only because of culture or opertunty but are otherwise interchangable. If you REALLY think that every Muslim is your enemy because of a handfull of their nuts then you should have bombed the shit out of every trailer park and redneck hangout south of the mason-Dixie line after Oklahoma City.
Quote:Oh, but if we dare to even warter board them to get info out , or make them sleep on a cold, concrete floor, we're called NAZIS! In reality, we show these monsters we catch more humanity than they've ever KNOWN, and we have wussies crying that we're torturing them ! COMPLETE B.S. !
The best way to deal with this situation is to beat the crap out of the guilty when you can find them and keep a sensible sense of proportion otherwise.
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Worse two things you can do is live in fear and let that fear make you do stuff that's stupid.
I guess the Brits were living in fear when the buzz bombs were raining down on London, huh? Should have just turned the other cheek and moved on about their day, right ? Please, this 'giving in to fear' crap is EXACTLY what lead up to 10 yrs of bloody attacks by al Qaeda
Ignoring the problem won't make it go away!
Doing something about those who are murdering innocent civilians isn't letting fear rule or way of life. When folks have cancer, you find it, cut it out, and then let the healing take place. Too many are willing to ignore the cancer, and are hoping it will go away.
"Hillary tried to get a million dollars for the Woodstock museum. I understand it was a major cultural and pharmaceutical event. I couldn't attend. I was tied up at the time." - John McCain
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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This citizen-strawman seems to make some really dumb arguments. But then arguments made by real people can be tricky, best to ignore them, am I right?
Translation: I can and will deny Muslms are killing folks all around the world, because it goes against my template of disagreeing w/ AURaptor,plus I have no sincere or rational reply.
Quote:I've actually made no racist, nationalist remarks what so ever
Your racist nationalism aside,
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....this is a really dumb thing to say on so many levels. Britain never had to enter the second world war, a conflict so devastating we'll probably never fully recover from it. We entered into it because our ally was attacked, and we stood up to be counted.
Where was America while her allies were being over-run by one of the most evil regimes in history Au?
This isn't about appeasement, its not about shrinking back from the scourge of some fictional 'International Islam', its about recognising the real threats that are there, rather than focusing on fictional bogey men. Though I'm sure that somewhere between the screen and your head, my argument will be strawmanned into something barely recognisable.
So, you blame us for not entering into WW2 earlier as a reply for why you won't do something so simple is recognize the very plain truth of Islamo-fascism, and the very real threat it IS posing to man kind around the world?
Huh.
"Hillary tried to get a million dollars for the Woodstock museum. I understand it was a major cultural and pharmaceutical event. I couldn't attend. I was tied up at the time." - John McCain
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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