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LIVINGIMPAIRED

Saturday, October 12, 2002 6:55 AM

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Originally posted by darkangelslayer:
If they really did want to kill Buffy off, they would've made season 5 the last! I mean, has Joss ever been redundant with the storylines?

The theory is that that girl killed at the beginning of Lessons was a potential slayer, but what would be the purpose of killing off potential slayers unless they were planning on killing the slayer, and they're trying to avoid on a replacement slayer right away. So my theory is Faith will die (or at least someone will try and kill her) at the end of season 7, cuz Buffy doesn't come with any replacements anymore.

I think it's cool they're dealing the slayer mythology now, cuz I've always wondered where the slayers come from, or is there a giant list somewhere of the future slayers out there, and if so, do these future slayers get slayer powers before they've been promoted to "the Slayer",a nd if so, can't they just use these powers to fight evil too (like Kendra, cuz she was trained for slayerhood since she was a kid) cuz they're pretty vague about that.

I've never read Fray, so I have no idea what you guys are talking about. Was that Fray at the end of Tales of the Slayers? Is the Fray comics still in print, cuz I've been looking for it forever and can never find it! Is there anyplace where i can find it in NYC?

Fray is a seperate comic series written by JW himself about a Slayer several hundred years in the future. If you are unable to find back copies of it, wait a few months. After the last couple of issuse are released (finally), the whole story will be released as a graphic novel.

Until then, here is the quick and dirty history of the Slayers:

The Earth plane of existance used to be inhabited by demons, but animals came along and pushed them out of this world and into others. As man became the dominant life form, some demons decided to stay, adapting and becoming more human-like to survive in this enviorment. Thus most of the "demons" encountered are not ture demons-they are human/demon half-breeds of some sort. Anyway, one demon fed off the blood of a human on its way out of this deminision. This human became infected with the essence of the demon and became the first vampire.

The remaining demons and the new threat of vampires was cause of serious alarm among the human tribes. So the most powerful of the shamans came together to create a weapon against the demons. They pooled all of thier deadliest majicks into one being-a young woman-who would champion the human race. The Primitive, the first Slayer. After her death, another was called with the same powers. And so on until the end of time.

Each sucessive Slayer carries a part of her predecessors inside her. In effect, to be Chosen is to become immortal.

There are, at any moment in time, several protoslayers, slayers-in-waiting. These are girls that have the potential to be Chosen one day.

The shamans and their decendents took it upon themselves to protect their investment and their weapon. They became the Watchers. They seek out all the protoslayers they can, and raise them from an early age so that they may better meet their destiny, and be more easily controled (ie, Kendra). Sometimes they miss a protoslayer or two, and do not find her until after she has been Chosen. This was Buffy's situation.

Of course, with Fray... well, new game, new rules. I won't spoil it for you ... you need to read it yourself to get the full "Neat!" effect. I highly recomend you read it. Fray truely is a must for all BTVS fans. While you're at it, you might want to also read "Long Night's Journey" by Joss Whedon. It really clears up a lot of things about Angel's curse that didn't make sense.

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"In your dreams, you're someone else. A slave. A princess. A girl in a school in a sunlit city." --Urkonn, Fray #2, "The Calling."

WILLIAM

Saturday, October 12, 2002 12:38 PM

You are so right, finally Joss Whedon decides to explain more about the slayers. After 7 years of Buffy tvs, hopefully we'll know more about the slayer-in-training. I think you're right about the whole killing of the slayers in training, and about Faith. This season's Big Bad is gonna be great, it can morph -which could bring back so many old fave Big Bads ! Faith will probably not die, hopefully. So she get her own show. If not kill her character off. So we can get more Slayer spin-offs. I suggest a "Slayer" show, each episode can focus on different slayers, past and future.

LIVINGIMPAIRED

Saturday, October 12, 2002 5:05 PM

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Originally posted by William:
You are so right, finally Joss Whedon decides to explain more about the slayers. After 7 years of Buffy tvs, hopefully we'll know more about the slayer-in-training. I think you're right about the whole killing of the slayers in training, and about Faith. This season's Big Bad is gonna be great, it can morph -which could bring back so many old fave Big Bads ! Faith will probably not die, hopefully. So she get her own show. If not kill her character off. So we can get more Slayer spin-offs. I suggest a "Slayer" show, each episode can focus on different slayers, past and future.

The problem with a Tales of the Slayers series is that it would have not reoccuring characters. It would have to be an anthology--like the Tiwlight zone. Also, I think people would find this show upsetting. After all, many episoded would end with the heroine dying.

I think that Tales probably needs to stay in the comic arena. That said, I wish it was a regular comic, like the Buffy one is. Though I hear that this month they are releaseing a Tales comic, so here's hoping they keep it up...

Oh, and am I the only one that thinks this protoslayer killing spree is eerily reminiscent of the Spike/Dru "Pretty Maids in a Row?"

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"You still don't get it. It's not about right. It's not about wrong... It's about Power." —Morph-O-Monster, "Lessons"

DARKANGELSLAYER

Sunday, October 13, 2002 1:27 AM

I heard they're doing a Tales of the Vampires comic, not tales of the slayers

THELEFTHAND

Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:13 AM

Why do the girls being killed in the beginning of the Episodes have to be pre-called Slayers? Another possibility is that they are slayers actually called. Remember, Buffy has died twice. Even though Joss said that he considered the Slayer line to move through Faith, he also remarked that he would have no problems starting an additional line if he could work it into the story. It's possible there could be three slayers running around Sunnydale be the end of this season. Or Faith could die and the line could be passed to Dawn. This would give me the chance I've always wanted to try self-immolation.

LIVINGIMPAIRED

Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:32 AM

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Originally posted by darkangelslayer:
I heard they're doing a Tales of the Vampires comic, not tales of the slayers

Doing both, actually.

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"You still don't get it. It's not about right. It's not about wrong... It's about Power." —Morph-O-Monster, "Lessons"

LIVINGIMPAIRED

Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:34 AM

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Originally posted by TheLeftHand:
Why do the girls being killed in the beginning of the Episodes have to be pre-called Slayers? Another possibility is that they are slayers actually called. Remember, Buffy has died twice. Even though Joss said that he considered the Slayer line to move through Faith, he also remarked that he would have no problems starting an additional line if he could work it into the story. It's possible there could be three slayers running around Sunnydale be the end of this season. Or Faith could die and the line could be passed to Dawn. This would give me the chance I've always wanted to try self-immolation.

Giles is keeping his ear to the ground with the council. If there was a new Chosen One, he would know.

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"You still don't get it. It's not about right. It's not about wrong... It's about Power." —Morph-O-Monster, "Lessons"

SHUGGIE

Friday, October 25, 2002 8:20 AM

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Originally posted by TheLeftHand:
Why do the girls being killed in the beginning of the Episodes have to be pre-called Slayers? Another possibility is that they are slayers actually called. Remember, Buffy has died twice. Even though Joss said that he considered the Slayer line to move through Faith, he also remarked that he would have no problems starting an additional line if he could work it into the story. It's possible there could be three slayers running around Sunnydale be the end of this season. Or Faith could die and the line could be passed to Dawn. This would give me the chance I've always wanted to try self-immolation.

The problem with that is it would only account for 1 more Slayer and we've seen 2 girls die. There's only 1 Slayer death that hasn't called a new Slayer.

Buffy died in Prophecy Girl calling Kendra.
Kendra died in Becoming calling Faith.
Buffy died in the Gift.

I suppose Faith could have died off-screen or one of the Slayers before Buffy could have died twice - but seems unlikely.

Shug

THELEFTHAND

Friday, October 25, 2002 4:07 PM

If the killed girls are actual Slayers however, their deaths would have led to the calling of the other Slayers, i.e. Slayer dies in first episdode (Season 7), second Slayer is called who promptly dies at the beginning of the next episode. It does mean that they didn't last too long, but Slayers don't usually live for a long time. Buffy is an aberration (actually she's already died twice, it just means she's been lucky enough to get resurrected).

DARKANGELSLAYER

Sunday, October 27, 2002 12:51 AM

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If the killed girls are actual Slayers however, their deaths would have led to the calling of the other Slayers, i.e. Slayer dies in first episdode (Season 7), second Slayer is called who promptly dies at the beginning of the next episode. It does mean that they didn't last too long, but Slayers don't usually live for a long time. Buffy is an aberration (actually she's already died twice, it just means she's been lucky enough to get resurrected).

If they had been slayers they would've fought back or something (or did they cuz I missed the beginning of the second epi)

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