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Iraqi WMD's non-existence still confounding some buggers!

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Friday, September 14, 2007 17:16
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Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:11 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:


the way I see it...the blame America, denigrate America, surrender with humiliation crowd of Americans fall into two categories :
Those with their heads buried in the sand...and
those with their heads buried up their asses.

And the way I see it...the blame America, denigrate America, surrender with humiliation crowd of Americans falls into one category :
Those that want to see America fall...HARD, of which I am not one.

I want America to be strong and secure, but not at the price of a potential slide into the sewers of fascism.

We want the same thing, I conjure, just differ in the accepted methods is all.

American Chrisisall

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:26 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
And the way I see it...the blame America, denigrate America, surrender with humiliation crowd of Americans falls into one category :
Those that want to see America fall...HARD, of which I am not one.

I want America to be strong and secure, but not at the price of a potential slide into the sewers of fascism.

We want the same thing, I conjure, just differ in the accepted methods is all.

American Chrisisall


That is excellent is all! Well said.

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:29 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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blame America, denigrate America, surrender with humiliation crowd of Americans fall into two categories :
Those with their heads buried in the sand...and
those with their heads buried up their asses.
That t'aint evil pal...just my opinions is all.

So in your humble opinion America is always right. Right?


I 'aint goin' there buddy.

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:33 PM

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blame America, denigrate America, surrender with humiliation crowd of Americans fall into two categories :
Those with their heads buried in the sand...and
those with their heads buried up their asses.
That t'aint evil pal...just my opinions is all. JSSTRW

So in your humble opinion America is always right. Right? -Signy

I 'aint goin' there buddy.-JSSTRW

What, you think you haven't already BTDT?

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:33 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

That is excellent is all! Well said.


Wow. And here I was expecting to get yelled at...

Chrisisall

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:51 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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blame America, denigrate America, surrender with humiliation crowd of Americans fall into two categories :
Those with their heads buried in the sand...and
those with their heads buried up their asses.
That t'aint evil pal...just my opinions is all. JSSTRW

So in your humble opinion America is always right. Right? -Signy

I 'aint goin' there buddy.-JSSTRW

What, you think you haven't already BTDT?

---------------------------------
Always look upstream.


I give you credit...you are determined!
I've thrown enough fuel on the fire for one day...not looking to satisfy some inner need you have to confront individuals....just go ahead and call me a neo-con troll, and move on to the next Con here ( not many left ) to grapple with.

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:41 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
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Originally posted by leadb:
Gotcha. I do think this is the core of our difference. I look at much of Bush's history and conclude he is not particularly 'principled'; he does seem to be a consummate 'gamer of the system' (eg: profits mentioned in previous posts). The core trust you seem to have for Bush is not present in me, and I feel for rational reasons.

Bush demonstrates himself to be a successful businessman and you somehow find this to be a bad quality? I agree that there is a big disjoint in our respective definitions of what constitutes principled behavior, at least concerning Bush. If someone offers you profit off a failed oil company or a baseball club, would you turn it down simply because this was money based on your connections? I think that if one examines closely and fairly the negative views of Bush, often these views turn out to be more irrational then those holding them initially perceive them.

Many people who are 'successful' in business do so at the expense of others; being a 'successful' business person in the US today does not necessarily equate to being principled. Look at various discussions regarding the housing bubble (either here, or at the 'economy roars on part 2' I forget which) to get a sense of what I'm referring to.

You might be surprised at what I would walk away from on an ethical or moral basis; on one occasion I easily could have legally forced someone to fork over $10K more than I did. My lawyer kinda looked at me funny, but hell, I was paying his fees what's he going to do? ;-)

I'd be interested to know how you felt about Bush's 'service' in the National Guard to avoid the draft during the Vietnam era.

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RUE
Friday, September 14, 2007 12:55 AM

Well, damn, look what happens when one has ahem work to do, unlike the local court clerk (maybe even bailiff) who likes to troll.

Keep this up on top 'hero' and I'll get back to your cupidity when I get back in town Monday or Tuesday.

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Friday, September 14, 2007 12:56 AM

When was Bush ever a successful business man?

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Friday, September 14, 2007 1:06 AM

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Originally posted by Veteran:
When was Bush ever a successful business man?

Bush is a millionaire; and by 'conventional' definition attained his money in 'business' dealings; thus making him a successful business man in some people's opinion. That he left rubble behind and shortened funds for 'other folks' is just to show 'other folks' were not successful; but that would be 'their problem', not Bush's.

In 2004 George had an estimated net worth of around $9 million to $26 million
http://ask.yahoo.com/20040823.html

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