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Iraqi WMD's non-existence still confounding some buggers!

POSTED BY: chrisisall
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Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:48 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I’m pretty sure that I would describe Kucinich, Paul and Feingold as principled. As for whether they would be as principled in a presidency – that’s a different issue.


Ron Paul is clearly INSANE
Kucinich always was insane, now he's a fucking traitor too...going to Syria, making a speech in front of those America-hating camel-fuckers where he says America was wrong for this and that...fuck him!...he doesn't speak for me or anyone outside his lollipop guild district of idiots in Ohio.

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:54 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Ron Paul is clearly INSANE
Kucinich always was insane, now he's a fucking traitor too...going to Syria, making a speech in front of those America-hating camel-fuckers where he says America was wrong for this and that...fuck him!...he doesn't speak for me or anyone outside his lollipop guild district of idiots in Ohio.

As I said, I’m not sure their views are realistic. I’m not sure that I would describe Paul as insane, but he is sort of the Republican answer to Kucinich. Also “America-hating camel-fuckers” is probably not how I would describe Syrians either, but I do agree that one of Kucinich’s principles seems to be that American values are not important to promote, which I consider to be a pretty serious blow to any credibility as a leader of this country.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:39 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
What I perceive is that Bush has certain core beliefs which he holds to devotedly, as opposed to swinging with the political winds.


He certainly sticks to his guns, I'll give him that!

Curious Finn...do you think Bruce Lee could have beaten anyone on the planet in a one-on-one hand-to-hand fight when he was alive and at his best?
(I'll make the relevevence clear on my next post)

Chrisisall

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:49 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Curious Finn...do you think Bruce Lee could have beaten anyone on the planet in a one-on-one hand-to-hand fight when he was alive and at his best?
(I'll make the relevevence clear on my next post)

Chrisisall

I have no clue, but I would have to say no anyway, because I'm sure there has got to be some 7 foot Norwegian mountain man, burly African tribal warrior or Detroit longshoreman who would give him a run for his money.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:11 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Curious Finn...do you think Bruce Lee could have beaten anyone on the planet in a one-on-one hand-to-hand fight when he was alive and at his best?
(I'll make the relevevence clear on my next post)

Chrisisall

I have no clue, but I would have to say no anyway, because I'm sure there has got to be some 7 foot Norwegian mountain man, burly African tribal warrior or Detroit longshoreman who would give him a run for his money.


Truth is, Lee was great, but his rep will always be bigger than reality.
He was one of the best martial artist around, but plenty could have beaten him (many longshoremen among them).

The relevence here is that a man has a rep, and the rep becomes the man for most of us. Bush's rep among Liberals as an evil asshat IS the man for them. His rep as the principled President IS the man for you. I suspect the real man is somewhere in between.

my take Chrisisall

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:28 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
As I said, I’m not sure their views are realistic. I’m not sure that I would describe Paul as insane, but he is sort of the Republican answer to Kucinich.


The guy is basically an anarchist concerning American government...and if we left the Middle East, as he screams we must, and Iran/Al Qaida initiate a bloodbath of our allies, and then drop something nuclear on Israel, Ron Paul wouldn't have a care in the world about any of that. So millions of deaths do not concern him...I think that says enough about this piece of shit.
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Also “America-hating camel-fuckers” is probably not how I would describe Syrians either

Why not?

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:58 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
So millions of deaths do not concern him...I think that says enough about this piece of shit.
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Also “America-hating camel-fuckers” is probably not how I would describe Syrians either

Why not?

Jong, you is an angry young man, isn't you?

Don't give into th Dark side Chrisisall

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:55 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
So millions of deaths do not concern him...I think that says enough about this piece of shit.
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Also “America-hating camel-fuckers” is probably not how I would describe Syrians either

Why not?

Jong, you is an angry young man, isn't you?

Don't give into th Dark side Chrisisall


Hey Chris....
I'm not young
I'm not angry
I just calls it likes I sees it....all political correctness or moral equivalencies aside. And the way I see it...the blame America, denigrate America, surrender with humiliation crowd of Americans fall into two categories :
Those with their heads buried in the sand...and
those with their heads buried up their asses.
That t'aint evil pal...just my opinions is all.

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:57 PM

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I do agree that one of Kucinich’s principles seems to be that American values are not important to promote, which I consider to be a pretty serious blow to any credibility as a leader of this country.
FINN- I know we've been through this b4, but either my memory is bad or I just didn't understand in the first place so: What ARE "American values"?

We had a big discussion about "patriotism". I think we decided that I define it more as republicanism (small r). But you seem to define it more as "love of place" irrespective of what "the government" does. (I still haven't figured out what that means. I'm working on it!) So how does that translate to "American values"? What American values should we be exporting?


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Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:05 PM

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blame America, denigrate America, surrender with humiliation crowd of Americans fall into two categories :
Those with their heads buried in the sand...and
those with their heads buried up their asses.
That t'aint evil pal...just my opinions is all.

So in your humble opinion America is always right. Right?


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