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Iraqi WMD's non-existence still confounding some buggers!

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Friday, September 14, 2007 17:16
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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:25 PM

Thanks Hero, you proved to me that Washington's got a few more idiots in it than I had assumed...

Learning Chrisisall

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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:27 PM

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Originally posted by rue:

Thank you all. May God bless. Allah be praised!



That's it right there!

I don't remember him thankin' anyone Chrisisall

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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:38 PM

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Just call me a lying son of a bitch and get it off your chest
I don't think you're lying, that's why.

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RUE
Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:21 PM

Just call me a lying son of a bitch and get it off your chest
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I don't think you're lying, that's why.
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That reminds me of a quote from 'The Warlock in Spite of Himself' -- 'sometimes in error, never in doubt' (or in this case, perfidy).

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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:59 PM

Hmm, Joe Wilson was not very clear-headed, was he? I guess what I hear when most politcos speak is blah blah blah. But when I heard a whole laundry list of everthing that was wrong with the forged "yellowcake" document it kind of sticks, no matter what other words swirl around it.

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RUE
Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:06 AM

I was going to reply to 'hero' at length, but I'll post this first bit about Joe Wilson

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'hero'

"There is now no incentive for Hussein to comply ..." comes from an op-ed piece. It may be found here: http://web.archive.org/web/20040409230230/www.johnkerry.com/honesty/la
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Needless to say, your quote has nothing to do with the presence or absence of WMD, and neither did the op-ed piece.
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If you read even a fraction of it, you'll see what I mean.

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
forcing Bush’s poll numbers into the 20’s and pushing Blair out of office?

You know, for the most part, all we want for Bush is what Blair got (or do you think he was treated unfairly?).

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RUE
Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:44 AM

I want so much more for Bush - accusation and conviction, after a fair military tribunal at Gitmo. Oh and a firing squad. Just kidding.

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:04 AM

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Originally posted by leadb:
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
forcing Bush’s poll numbers into the 20’s and pushing Blair out of office?

You know, for the most part, all we want for Bush is what Blair got (or do you think he was treated unfairly?).

I think you missed the point.
But anyway, I like Blair. I read his speeches in the 90s and he was a strong supporter of a hardline position against Hussein even then. Many in the UK didn’t like him because they felt he was too willing to follow the US, but the truth is that Blair was always independent of the US. He had his own ideas about how to deal with Iraq, which Bush would never have agree to before 9/ll. Blair saw the US as the military might to pursue the internationalism he spoke about in the 90s. I don’t know that I would characterize it as Blair was “treated unfairly,” because the UK is a liberal democracy, like the US, and leaders are chosen by the people. But I do get the impression that many people had misconception about Blair that were not fair.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:29 AM

No, I didn't miss the point; the point you were trying to make was that if Bush could have foreseen where his choices were going to take him, he might have chosen differently (or, something along the lines, given how poorly it worked out for him, clearly he didn't make the choice for his long term benefit (or... maybe I did miss the point ;-)))

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