Iraqi WMD's non-existence still confounding some buggers!
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Friday, September 14, 2007 17:16
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Quote:What too? It's always been about the golden rule. Friends of friends. Backroom handshakes. The 'shadow government' is right out in the open.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
So now the conspiracy involves private companies too.
The only other possible answer to why things are going along as they are would be that our government is being run by truly idiotic minds, and I don't think...
hey wait.....
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Quote:The contractors can’t do it alone. They have to have the military and the government involved. The idea that contractors represent some sort of shadow government is pretty unlikely, but it is a new one. I have to admit, I haven’t heard that one. Even the X-files didn't think that was likely enough to use.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
What too? It's always been about the golden rule. Friends of friends. Backroom handshakes. The 'shadow government' is right out in the open.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Who did Cheney work for, again?
Who's daddy has friends in OPEC?
Where has the missing millions allocated for war costs gone?
Why is Conspiracy Theory one of Chrisisall's favourite movies? 
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Cheney has no ties to Halliburton. HW Bush isn’t president and in a defense budget of many hundreds of billions – missing millions is pretty unsurprising.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Bush was horribly, irretrievably wrong on everything that had to do with Iraq ...
"Together we must also confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons, and the outlaw states, terrorists and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation's wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them." - President Clinton, Jan. 27, 1998
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." -Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 (The same fella that stole classified documents from the National Archives).
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." - Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.
"s a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.
"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." -Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.
"We know that he has stored away secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."-Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years .... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."-Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002.
"He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."-Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct. 10, 2002 (she can't run from this line).
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So
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Quote:Halliburton?
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Cheney has no ties to Halliburton.
Did I say anything about Halliburton?
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/CompanyFocus/WhyPolitic
iansAreWorthBuying.aspx
The government works for the corporations, and the corporations work for the government...
Then they do just enough to keep us- the little peeps- happy and content. Well, almost enough.
Hmmm, MORE than enough, for some, it seems.
The 'Clinton did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky' Chrisisall
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Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Why is Conspiracy Theory one of Chrisisall's favourite movies?
Because he's loved Julia Roberts ever since Pretty Woman...
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Quote:Well....that too....
Originally posted by Hero:Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Why is Conspiracy Theory one of Chrisisall's favourite movies?
Because he's loved Julia Roberts ever since Pretty Woman...
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Cantdenyisall
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Quote:WHAAA???? Where have you BEEN for the last 50 years?
The idea that contractors represent some sort of shadow government is pretty unlikely, but it is a new one.
Well, since you don't seem to trust information unless it's really old and crusty and issued by the Highest Power In The Land, I give you....
Military-Industrial Complex Speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961
Quote:
This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.
http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html
Finn, I just don't know what to say. I'm trying to be polite.
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Always look upstream.
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Thanks Signy, that's what I was aiming to say, just in a not-as-knowledgeable-about-history kind of way...
Dwight nailed it Chrisisall
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