Athiest Gospel Songs

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GEEZER

Monday, August 13, 2007 8:13 PM

When I was a youngster they took me to church
The blessings of God to receive.
Well, I tried and I tried, I prayed and I cried
In the end I just could not believe.

chorus
Oh I don't believe in Heaven, I don't believe in Hell
I don't believe in gods floating by.
But the one thing I know,
You're here 'til you go.
So be cheerful while you are alive.

I went to the preacher, I went to the priest,
I went to a mullah or two.
They - all - said "Sonny, when you are dead,
If you don't believe my spiel it's Hell for you.

chorus

I read all the books about loving dieties,
And all of their mercy and care,
Then I watched the evening news, and since I get to choose,
I decided there's nobody there.

chorus

"Keep the Shiny side up"

EVILDINOSAUR

Monday, August 13, 2007 8:18 PM

k....

"Haha, mine is an evil laugh."

RUE

Monday, August 13, 2007 8:20 PM

THIS LAND IS YOUR LAND
words and music by Woody Guthrie

Chorus:
This land is your land, this land is my land
From California, to the New York Island
From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters
This land was made for you and me

As I was walking a ribbon of highway
I saw above me an endless skyway
I saw below me a golden valley
This land was made for you and me

Chorus

I've roamed and rambled and I've followed my footsteps
To the sparkling sands of her diamond deserts
And all around me a voice was sounding
This land was made for you and me

Chorus

The sun comes shining as I was strolling
The wheat fields waving and the dust clouds rolling
The fog was lifting a voice come chanting
This land was made for you and me

Chorus

As I was walkin' - I saw a sign there
And that sign said - no tress passin'
But on the other side .... it didn't say nothin!
Now that side was made for you and me!

Chorus

In the squares of the city - In the shadow of the steeple
Near the relief office - I see my people
And some are grumblin' and some are wonderin'
If this land's still made for you and me.

Chorus (2x)

©1956 (renewed 1984), 1958 (renewed 1986) and 1970 TRO-Ludlow Music, Inc. (
BMI)

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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."

RUE

Monday, August 13, 2007 8:32 PM

Set to music

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Article. I.

Section. 1.

All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

Section. 2.

The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.

No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.

Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode-Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New-York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and Georgia three.

When vacancies happen in the Representation from any State, the Executive Authority thereof shall issue Writs of Election to fill such Vacancies.

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

Section. 3.

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.

Immediately after they shall be assembled in Consequence of the first Election, they shall be divided as equally as may be into three Classes. The Seats of the Senators of the first Class shall be vacated at the Expiration of the second Year, of the second Class at the Expiration of the fourth Year, and of the third Class at the Expiration of the sixth Year, so that one third may be chosen every second Year; and if Vacancies happen by Resignation, or otherwise, during the Recess of the Legislature of any State, the Executive thereof may make temporary Appointments until the next Meeting of the Legislature, which shall then fill such Vacancies.

No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.

The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.

The Senate shall chuse their other Officers, and also a President pro tempore, in the Absence of the Vice President, or when he shall exercise the Office of President of the United States.

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

Judgment in C

GEEZER

Monday, August 13, 2007 9:15 PM

Rue, while those are meaningful, I was really looking for something atheist-specific, not just non-religious. And something that you can sing as bluegrass would be nice. Excercise your imagination.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

RUE

Monday, August 13, 2007 9:38 PM

Ess'ese o tolubeh,
oh nimbo
Ess'ese o tolubeh,
oh nimbo
Ess'ese o tolubeh,
oh nimbo
Nimbo, nimbo, nimbo

It's a real song. I wrote it myself. Have the tune, but can't transmit it here. But it's sung more like a spiritual a capella with close harmony, and not bluegrass. It's quite nice, if I say so myself.

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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."

MALBADINLATIN

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 1:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Ess'ese o tolubeh,
oh nimbo
Ess'ese o tolubeh,
oh nimbo
Ess'ese o tolubeh,
oh nimbo
Nimbo, nimbo, nimbo

It's a real song. I wrote it myself. Have the tune, but can't transmit it here. But it's sung more like a spiritual a capella with close harmony, and not bluegrass. It's quite nice, if I say so myself.

Hey! I can sing, and play guitar! I wanna sing! What key is it in?

If you're not on Malbadinlatin's side, you're with the terrorists.

RUE

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 1:41 AM

I suppose it could be transposed to guitar. How do I do the notes here ?

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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."

GEEZER

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:22 AM

Geeze. No real imagination here.

Here's another, based on a thought by Madame Geezer.

Don't Live For the Bribe.

There's always a shaman, a priest, or a sage,
Who preaches the word to the tribe.
If you follow him, in heaven you'll live.
But don't live your life for his bribe.

chorus
Don't live for the bribe. Don't live for the bribe.
That promise of sweet by and by.
Live your life as you choose,
'cause there's nothing to lose.
There ain't no holy pie in the sky.

They promise you heaven if you toe the line,
Wings and a harp and a cloud.
Or dozens of virgins right at your command,
Who'll cry out with passion so loud.

chorus

Well all that you've got is what you have got
While you are still walking around.
So don't live your life in trouble and strife,
In hopes of some heavenly crown.

chorus

Come on, people! I want some good atheist spirit out there.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

RUE

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:27 AM

So, are we to thank Madame Geezer for the imagination you lack ?

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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."

GEEZER

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
So, are we to thank Madame Geezer for the imagination you lack ?

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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."

Well, the first one was mine. Give me a good atheist theme and I'll see what I can do.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

RUE

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:34 AM

Probably another thread, but I had passing thought.

It seems to me as resource allocation becomes more disproportionate, religious and political ideologies become more threatening.

Any thoughts ?

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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."

RUE

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:56 AM

A Fair World

The world is wide and just,
Our actions get sure reply.

The mess we made
And the suffering we gave
Have only one answer to 'why'.

We waste,
We envy,
We covet,
We glut.
We treat each other like tools.

We use our skills
To take from each other,
And live the lives of fools.

Grabbing for things
While watching our backs,
Bound by our glee and our fear.

Running in place
Until we drop,
Year after year after year.

The world is wide and just,
Our actions get sure reply.

Looking to heaven
'Cause hell's on earth,
And watching our lives waste by.

Amen.

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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 7:33 AM

How 'bout a universal survival hymn, br that great man, Tom Lehrer:

When you attend a funeral,
It is sad to think that sooner or'l
Later those you love will do the same for you.
And you may have thought it tragic,
Not to mention other adjec-
Tives, to think of all the weeping they will do.
(But don't you worry.)

No more ashes, no more sackcloth,
And an arm band made of black cloth
Will some day nevermore adorn a sleeve.
For if the bomb that drops on you
Gets your friends and neighbors too,
There'll be nobody left behind to grieve.

And we will all go together when we go.
What a comforting fact that is to know.
Universal bereavement,
An inspiring achievement,
Yes, we will all go together when we go.

We will all go together when we go.
All suffused with an incandescent glow.
No one will have the endurance
To collect on his insurance,
Lloyd's of London will be loaded when they go.

Oh we will all fry together when we fry.
We'll be French fried potatoes by and by.
There will be no more misery
When the world is our rotisserie,
Yes, we will all fry together when we fry.

Down by the old maelstrom,
There'll be a storm before the calm.

And we will all bake together when we bake.
There'll be nobody present at the wake.
With complete participation
In that grand incineration,
Nearly three billion hunks of well-done steak.

Oh we will all char together when we char.
And let there be no moaning of the bar.
Just sing out a Te Deum
When you see that I.C.B.M.,*
And the party will be come-as-you-are.

Oh, we will all burn together when we burn.
There'll be no need to stand and wait your turn.
When it's time for the fallout
And Saint Peter calls us all out,
We'll just drop our agendas and adjourn.

You will all go directly to your respective Valhallas.
Go directly, do not pass Go, do not collect two hundred dollahs.

And we will all go together when we go.
Every Hottentot and every Eskimo.
When the air becomes uranious,
We will all go simultaneous.
Yes, we all will go together
When we all go together,
Yes we all will go together when we go.

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:49 AM

I’m not a songwriter, so I’ll just rob others. The only Atheist anthem I know is Imagine, by Lennon. Not expressly atheist, as it is communist, maybe, but a good song none the less.

Quote:
Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

Thinking of it though, my favorite communist song is A World Turned Upside Down, by Clandestine, a Texas Celtic Folk group that I heard one year at a Burn’s Dinner. It’s a song about the English Diggers, who while communist, where not atheist, so maybe it doesn’t apply. The Song itself is really old, dating all the way back to the Diggers in fact. If you google it, you’ll find various versions of it, but the best is the a capella version by Clandestine, which I can’t find.

Quote:
In 1649,
To St George's Hill
A ragged band they called the Diggers
Came to show the people' s will.
They defied the landlords.
They defied the laws.
They were the dispossessed
Reclaiming what was theirs.

“We come in peace,” they said,
“To dig and sow.
“We come to work the land in common
“And to make the waste land grow.
“This earth divided,
“We will make whole
“So it can be
“A common treasury for all.”

“The sin of property
“We do disdain;
“No one has any right to buy and sell
“The earth for private gain.
“By theft and murder,
“They took the land.
“Now everywhere the walls
“Rise up at their command.”

“They make the laws,
“To chain us well.
“The clergy dazzle us with heaven
“Or they damn us into hell.
“We will not worship
“The God they serve.
“The God of greed who feeds the rich
“While poor men starve.”

“We work, we eat together.
“We need no swords.
“We will not bow to masters
“Or pay rent to the lords.
“We are free men,
“Though we are poor.
“You Diggers all stand up for glory.”

“Stand up now!”
From the men of property,
The orders came.
They sent the hired men and troopers
To wipe out the Diggers' claim.
“Tear down their cottages.
“Destroy their corn!”
They were dispersed -
Only the vision lingers on.

You poor take courage.
You rich take care.
The earth was made a common treasury,
For everyone to share.
All things in common.
All people one.
We come in peace.
The order came to cut them down.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:54 AM

The FSM have a theme song yet?

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

GEEZER

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 12:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Probably another thread, but I had passing thought.

It seems to me as resource allocation becomes more disproportionate, religious and political ideologies become more threatening.

Any thoughts ?

Probably some along the lines of "It depends". Open a thread and we'll see what we can hammer out.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

KANEMAN

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 5:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Set to music

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Article. I.

Section. 1.

All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

Section. 2.

The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.

No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.

Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode-Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New-York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and Georgia three.

When vacancies happen in the Representation from any State, the Executive Authority thereof shall issue Writs of Election to fill such Vacancies.

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

Section. 3.

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.

Immediately after they shall be assembled in Consequence of the first Election, they shall be divided as equally as may be into three Classes. The Seats of the Senators of the first Class shall be vacated at the Expiration of the second Year, of the second Class at the Expiration of the fourth Year, and of the third Class at the Expiration of the sixth Year, so that one third may be chosen every second Year; and if Vacancies happen by Resignation, or otherwise, during the Recess of the Legislature of any State, the Executive thereof may make temporary Appointments until the next Meeting of the Legislature, which shall then fill such Vacancies.

No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.

The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.

The Senate shall chuse their other Officers, and also a President pro tempore, in the Absence of the Vice President, or when he shall exercise the Office of President of the United States.

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of

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RUE

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 6:00 PM

Well, I searched the entire thing for god, creator, power, higher power - anything that might allude to some pro-religious interest. I couldn't find anything. But once posted, maybe someone will find a pro-religious reference and prove me wrong.

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STINKINGROSE

Thursday, August 16, 2007 1:16 AM

You want atheist bluegrass?

chorus:
Ain't gonna live no more, no more
Ain't gonna live no more.
When I die that's it, goodbye
Cause I ain't gonna live no more.

*
They tell me go to heaven
I say what for?
They tell me go to heaven
I say what for?
They tell me go to heaven,
but it sounds like a bore
No I ain't a gonna live no more.

chorus

*
They tell me go to hell
I say what for?
They tell me go to hell
I say what for?
They tell me go to hell
But I couldn't stand the smell,
No I ain't a gonna live no more.

chorus

(insert appropriate instrumental solos and end with another chorus)

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Thursday, August 16, 2007 3:03 AM

Quote:
First Amendment -

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The Constitution specifically requires the free exercise of religion. I call that pro-religious.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

RUE

Thursday, August 16, 2007 3:05 AM

But no reference to god. I should have said pro-xtian, which is closer to my meaning.

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FINN MAC CUMHAL

Thursday, August 16, 2007 3:11 AM

Well, Christianity is a religion, and like any religion under the Constitution it’s free practice is protected. So I would say that the Constitution is pro-Christian too.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

RUE

Thursday, August 16, 2007 3:15 AM

To be "pro" something implies a unique positive opinion not shared by other choices. It's not "pro" xtian in the normal sense of the phrase. You had to use the language abnormally to try to make that point.

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FINN MAC CUMHAL

Thursday, August 16, 2007 3:20 AM

To be Pro-something only implies that that something is favored. And the Constitution favors the free expression of religion, including Christianity, over the curtailing of religion, including Christianity. It seems perfectly clear to me.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

RUE

Thursday, August 16, 2007 3:24 AM

verb

1. promote over another; "he favors his second daughter"

To say the constitution 'favors' the free expression of religion is NOT the same as saying the constitution 'favors' xtianity. The second interpretation directly contradicts the first.

For the sake of completeness

PRO
1. An argument or consideration in favor of something: weighing the pros and cons.

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FINN MAC CUMHAL

Thursday, August 16, 2007 4:12 AM

Pro-
1 : taking the place of : substituting for
2 : favoring : supporting : championing
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

Why it is that you feel the need to single out Christianity in this way, I don’t know, but the Constitution does protect the free expression of Christianity.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

RUE

Thursday, August 16, 2007 2:53 PM

Well, the thread's about atheism which MOST people here have cited as a response to xtianity specifically. Just following the conversation.

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STINKINGROSE

Saturday, August 18, 2007 11:22 PM

Isis, Isis, Ra Ra Ra!

(sorry, that's not even remotely atheist.. but it's a fun bumper sticker I saw somewhere.)

So, any other a-religious songs out there or has this thread run the course of existence not preordained for it?

TDBROWN

Saturday, August 18, 2007 11:45 PM

Randy Newman's God's Song (That's why I love mankind)... One of my favorite Agnostic (If not outright Atheist) Songs.

Cain slew Abel Seth knew not why
For if the children of Israel were to multiply
Why must any of the children die?
So he asked the Lord
And the Lord said:

Man means nothing he means less to me
Than the lowliest cactus flower
Or the humblest Yucca tree
He chases round this desert
'Cause he thinks that's where I'll be
That's why I love mankind

I recoil in horror from the foulness of thee
From the squalor and the filth and the misery
How we laugh up here in heaven at the prayers you offer me
That's why I love mankind

The Christians and the Jews were having a jamboree
The Buddhists and the Hindus joined on satellite TV
They picked their four greatest priests
And they began to speak
They said, "Lord, a plague is on the world
Lord, no man is free
The temples that we built to you
Have tumbled into the sea
Lord, if you won't take care of us
Won't you please, please let us be?"
And the Lord said
And the Lord said

I burn down your cities-how blind you must be
I take from you your children and you say how blessed are we
You all must be crazy to put your faith in me
That's why I love mankind
You really need me
That's why I love mankind

"Might have been the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one." -Mal

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Saturday, August 18, 2007 11:46 PM

How many atheist gospel songs can their possibly be?

People write gospels songs because they are inspired by their belief. If you have no belief what on earth inspires you to write about it and why the hell would you?

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

GEEZER

Sunday, August 19, 2007 1:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
How many atheist gospel songs can their possibly be?

People write gospels songs because they are inspired by their belief. If you have no belief what on earth inspires you to write about it and why the hell would you?

Atheists do have a belief. We believe that we're here all by ourselves, and it's up to us to make the most of our lives - without being coerced or bribed by the promise of blessings from one of the multiplicity of deities folks claim, or of an array of differing afterlives.

Atheist gospel songs celebrate our freedom from superstition, and our understanding that we control our destiny, not some usually petulant and childish diety who is represented on Earth by those who commit the very sins they preach against.

Besides, it's fun to freak folk out by making them try to wrap their minds around the very concept.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

JONGSSTRAW

Sunday, August 19, 2007 2:44 PM

Shepherd Book would be upset & disappointed with all those here mocking his religion and faith. I don't really get it either...are you people so hateful and full of self-centered pseudo-superiority that you have nothing to do but invent atheist songs? I won't even go into how desperately empty and miserable your hollow lives must be to stoop so low to write anthems for atheism for sport.

GEEZER

Sunday, August 19, 2007 4:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Shepherd Book would be upset & disappointed with all those here mocking his religion and faith.

I got no idea what Book's faith was. He lived at an "Abbey" and had a "Bible", which might indicate some branch of Christianity, but no particular deity was ever mentioned. Both Mal and River mocked, or at least denied, his faith. Guess they're off to "Hell".

Quote:
I don't really get it either...are you people so hateful and full of self-centered pseudo-superiority that you have nothing to do but invent atheist songs? I won't even go into how desperately empty and miserable your hollow lives must be to stoop so low to write anthems for atheism for sport.

Why hateful? I'm not going to burn you at the stake for your beliefs, I just don't buy them. Neither does a Muslim, or a Sikh, or a Hindu. Are they hateful as well?

Why self-centered? I believe I'm just me - a small part of the whole universe. Here by accident and able to decide what to do with my life. Is that more self-centered and pseudo-superior than thinking some deity built the whole thing for my special benefit?

Why empty, miserable, and hollow? I enjoy life, knowing I've got limited time to do so. Should I suffer through my existence hoping I've picked the right dogma to live by to win the after-life lottery?

Why write Atheist gospel songs? To celebrate my beliefs, just like anyone else. That I enjoy the fact that they might offend some folk is more down to my basic character than my Atheism. I enjoyed offending the stuck-up long before I resolved my religious thought.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

SERGEANTX

Sunday, August 19, 2007 4:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Atheists do have a belief. We believe that we're here all by ourselves, and it's up to us to make the most of our lives - without being coerced or bribed by the promise of blessings from one of the multiplicity of deities folks claim, or of an array of differing afterlives.

Very well put. Clarity is a beautiful thing.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

SERGEANTX

Sunday, August 19, 2007 6:20 PM

http://www.cbbsf.com/songs/RobbieFulks-GodIsn'tReal.mp3

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock