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Why the Left is so dangerous

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Saturday, July 21, 2007 3:17 AM

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That the kid may have been trying to play hooky doesn’t make play well for his defense and doesn’t change that the principal was ultimately responsible for the event and had every right to seize the sign, which was inappropriate.
What if the sign had been hoisted by someone NOT affiliated with the the school? Students from another school? A passerby who had just mixed in with the students? How do you define where the "school event" is taking place and who the principal had "control" of?


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Saturday, July 21, 2007 3:19 AM

I just read the other posts. You know what Finn? Why don;t you watch Zenon? Beside, everyone knows that Finn is a crotchety old grandame!

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RUE
Saturday, July 21, 2007 3:23 AM

"I guess you don’t care if children actually learn while in school or under school supervision."

Now, I don't know Finn. Something about this post gave me the idea you thought it was about learning. Perhaps you can help me figure out how I got the idea.

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Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:13 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
You still haven't shown me that children were academically harmed. Until you show me that, I have to conclude your issue is not that learning was disrupted, but that you prefer children be made compliant.

I think he prefers children be made Christian.



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Saturday, July 21, 2007 3:13 PM

Finn wants things to feel a certain way. He seems to be very much affected by the ... I don't know the word for this... a surface made of separate pieces... a collage maybe- which creates an appearance. Change a bit of paper, the appearance AND the response changes.

So for example he's deeply concerned about human life- but change the age from baby to adult and then he's not so much concerned. He loves his country- free, hard-working, moral, strong military- but not the republican principles behind its founding. He's in love with all the pieces in place, maybe, but not really recognizing that sometimes those pieces are even in conflict with each other.

My $0.02 FWIW.

ETA: Can we get back to why "The Left" is so dangerous? It makes me feel so... empowered... unlike most of the time when I feel sad, scared, frustrated, and isolated.

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Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:13 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
ETA: Can we get back to why "The Left" is so dangerous? It makes me feel so... empowered... unlike most of the time when I feel sad, scared, frustrated, and isolated.


When I first read the thread title, way back when, my brain went in two different directions. The second was that the title was meant to be read in a sultry, drawn out, come hither voice (the Left is sooooo daaaangerous, ooooooh).

Sortta like Roxette's song "Dangerous." (

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It helped me forget, for a second, that the RWAuthoritarians have their self-righteousness cranked up and are just waiting for their authority figures to give the green light.

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Monday, July 23, 2007 10:45 PM

Rue, Signy, you keep hammering Finn over little details when you should be looking at the big picture. All actions have consequences, be they major or minor. Take your case study regarding the "Bong hits for Jesus sign". Say the student was allowed to display his sign for the duration of the event. You say it is his right, free expression and all that. What about further down the road? What if he decides to bring the sign to school or wear a t-shirt with the same sentiment? What if some impressionable kids read the sign and decide to put words into action? What if some of the student's parents see the sign and wonder why nothing was done by the school authorities? What if at the next school sanctioned event a student displays a banner that reads "Kill non-believers for Jesus"? It is unfortunate but the old adage holds true, give someone an inch and they will take a mile. Sometimes, unfairly, you have to nip things in the butt to prevent further problems in the future.
Finn, IMHO, has argued that authority is necessary to promote learning which I tend to agree with. You two seem to think authority is not necessary or only in certain instances. Who do you think is more qualified to make the judgement call? You or the Principal who deals with the kids on a regular basis?

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RUE
Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:10 AM

Sigh ........

You sound like chicken little.

"authority is necessary to promote learning" PLEASE tell me how learning was impaired during the event to watch the Olypmic torch go by. PLEASE. Finn wasn't able to answer it, so, since you two seem to be of the same mind, perhaps you can explain. What precious gem of knowledge wasn't imparted while waiting for the torch for the few minutes the sign was up ?

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Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
Sigh ........

You sound like chicken little.

"authority is necessary to promote learning" PLEASE tell me how learning was impaired during the event to watch the Olypmic torch go by. PLEASE. Finn wasn't able to answer it, so, since you two seem to be of the same mind, perhaps you can explain. What precious gem of knowledge wasn't imparted while waiting for the torch for the few minutes the sign was up ?


Please see my quote above regarding the whole give an inch, take a mile adage. While not an educational event per se, it was still a school sanctioned event. It would act as a precedent which could be exploited in the future in different milieus. It is a slippery slope to start making judgement calls on case by case bases, obviously you will never get full agreement from all parties involved. Much easier and safer to apply one set of guidelines to all school sanctioned events.

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