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Why the Left is so dangerous

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RUE
Saturday, July 21, 2007 1:57 AM

But in THAT particular instance, there was no harm to the learning process. So what you're arguing for is order for the sake of order.

(I'd also argue that order is not necessary to learning.)

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Saturday, July 21, 2007 2:01 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
But in THAT particular instance, there was no harm to the learning process. So what you're arguing for is order for the sake of order.

How do you know there was nothing to learn. Maybe one of the things to learn is children shouldn’t take Bong hits.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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RUE
Saturday, July 21, 2007 2:14 AM

Now you're just being 'clever' without seeming to understand your own words. There was no curriculum. It was just an event - watching the torch go by.

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Saturday, July 21, 2007 2:23 AM

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Now you're just being 'clever' without seeming to understand you own words. There was nothing to learn. It was just an event - watching the torch go by.

I understand my own words just fine and I think so do you. Children learn more from school then what get from books. They learn appropriate attitudes and behavior, whether it is a school event, a classroom, a football game or whatever. But in the end, what this principal did was right.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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RUE
Saturday, July 21, 2007 2:24 AM

"They learn appropriate attitudes and behavior"

That's what I'm saying - you're arguing for control for its own sake, not for any effect it has on the learning process. You don't want schools to turn out well-educated people, you want them to turn out compliant people.

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Saturday, July 21, 2007 2:27 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
That's what I'm saying - you're arguing for control for its own sake.

Whatever you want to call it.
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You don't want school sot tunr out well-educated people, you want them to turn out compliant people.

Because I expect the teachers and principals to supervise students? You don't really have a point, do you?



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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RUE
Saturday, July 21, 2007 2:35 AM

"disruptive to the school event"
"appropriate attitudes and behavior"

You still haven't shown me that children were academically harmed. Until you show me that, I have to conclude your issue is not that learning was disrupted, but that you prefer children be made compliant.

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Saturday, July 21, 2007 2:50 AM

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You still haven't shown me that children were academically affected by the sign. Until you show me that, I have to conclude your issue is not that learning was disrupted, but that you prefer children be made compliant.

Until I prove your strawman wrong? Sounds like a waste of time. I have a better idea. You can conclude whatever the hell you want, and I’ll go watch Zenon.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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RUE
Saturday, July 21, 2007 2:57 AM

Sigh ... you just got backed into a corner of your own contradictions, and now you're attacking and running away.

You CLAIMED the issue was about learning. You failed to show learning was affected in any way. Case closed.

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Saturday, July 21, 2007 3:10 AM

Not really, you decided what my opinion was from the very beginning, and you’ve been trying desperately and unsuccessfully to prove that preconceived notion. I’ve just gotten bored listening to you try to demonize me to justify your personal problems with authority. If you had something interesting or mature to say, I’d debate it, but you don’t. All you want to do is validate your ad hominem – what was it? “Little martinete.” It’s actually spelled martinet. So I’ve run out of patience and you need therapy.

Zenon is starting. Mmmbuhbye.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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