Why the Left is so dangerous
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UPDATED: Tuesday, April 8, 2025 14:10
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Quote:Yeah, why did the Principal have to be such an effing stiff-necked busybody anyway? Wasting the Court's time like that. For shame!
I see this as a phenomenal waste of time and money of the Supreme Court and all the Appellate Courts.
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Quote:Being the little Marxist that you are, I guess you don’t care if children actually learn while in school or under school supervision. I suppose you would prefer them to make signs about bongs and dress in pasta outfits, god knows those valuable skills will serve them in later life. But a teen expressing a conviction for responsibility – that is totally uncalled for while in school.
Originally posted by rue:
Out on the street ? Away from school ? On their own time ? Little martinete that you are, I guess you don't understand the concept of freedom of expression.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Now where did I say kids should be allowed to do anything they want no matter how disruptive ?
I didn't. You see, I actually have an idea in my head about the function of schools, and not a knee-jerk salute to authoritarianism like you do.
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Quote:You obviously don't know what I'm talking about, despite shooting your mouth off, so I really have no reason to believe that you have clue what you're talking about.
Originally posted by rue:
Now where did I say kids should be allowed to do anything they want no matter how disruptive ?
I didn't. You see, I actually have an idea in my head about the function of schools, and not a knee-jerk salute to authoritarianism like you do.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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This is the Wiki version of the event
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On January 24, 2002, students and staff were permitted to leave classes at Juneau-Douglas High School to attend a school-sanctioned and school-supervised event, to watch the Olympic torch pass by.Frederick, who was late for school that day joined some friends on the sidewalk across from the high school, off of school grounds. Frederick and his friends waited for the television cameras so they could unfurl a banner reading "BONG HiTS 4 JESUS". Frederick was quoted as saying he'd first seen the phrase on a snowboard sticker. When they displayed the banner, then-principal Deborah Morse ran across the street and seized it.
It seems to me that
Frederick was not on school grounds
He was "at" a school-sanctioned event, but
He was not under school supevision because he had not reported to school that morning
If they wanted to punish Frderick for something it seems truancy would be the best case. The principal was tweaked not because Frderick was late for school with apparently no good reason (prolly painting that sign last-minute) but because the nature of the sign. If he had held up a sign saying "We luv the Olympics" his truancy would have been forgiven.
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Quote:According to this passage, it was a “school-sanctioned and school-supervised event.” That the kid may have been trying to play hooky doesn’t make play well for his defense and doesn’t change that the principal was ultimately responsible for the event and had every right to seize the sign, which was inappropriate.
Originally posted by SignyM:
This is the Wiki version of the eventQuote:
On January 24, 2002, students and staff were permitted to leave classes at Juneau-Douglas High School to attend a school-sanctioned and school-supervised event, to watch the Olympic torch pass by.Frederick, who was late for school that day joined some friends on the sidewalk across from the high school, off of school grounds. Frederick and his friends waited for the television cameras so they could unfurl a banner reading "BONG HiTS 4 JESUS". Frederick was quoted as saying he'd first seen the phrase on a snowboard sticker. When they displayed the banner, then-principal Deborah Morse ran across the street and seized it.
It seems to me that
Frederick was not on school grounds
He was "at" a school-sanctioned event, but
He was not under school supevision because he had not reported to school that morning.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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But how was anything he did disruptive to learning ? That's the ultimate function of a school isn't it - to teach students ?
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Quote:Well to begin with, it’s suggestive of illegal activity. A part from that, the principal was in charge and the principal obviously felt that it was disruptive to the school event. School is still run by the adults, right?
Originally posted by rue:
But how was anything he did disruptive to learning ? That's the ultimate function of a school isn't it - to teach students ?
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
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So you are arguing authority, and not any actual impairment of learning.
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Quote:The two are not mutually exclusive. In fact, if you don’t have any authority, you won’t have any learning.
Originally posted by rue:
So you are arguing authority, and not any actual impairment of learning.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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