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This Seems Strangely Orwellian to Me

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Thursday, July 19, 2007 4:18 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
bad time to mention '81?



Kid, the year U wuz born I was in the threare watchin' Raiders Of The Lost Ark and Superman II !!

*various binky and diaper jokes* Chrisisall

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Thursday, July 19, 2007 4:35 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
*various binky and diaper jokes* Chrisisall

I wouldn't worry Chris, many people grow incontinent as they age...



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Thursday, July 19, 2007 4:45 PM

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bad time to mention '81?
Wow. By then I had graduated from university, married, moved cross-country to LA, bought three houses (and sold two), gotten mugged and broken into...

Wow. So "albums" are what you put your digital pix in, phonographs are antiques, Tricky Dick is not even a memory and neither is the hippe/ antiwar movement....


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Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:37 PM

Chiming in late, but I never really understood why everyone would swallow the Osama/911 denial/confession hook, line, and sinker. According to most sources, he both denied and claimed responsibility. He obviously lies, so why give credence to one claim over the other?

I look at the objective evidence, and there are so many holes in the 911/AlQaeda connection that I cannot fathom holding them solely or even primarily responsible for those attacks. We have turned the murder of all those people into a political platform instead of investigating this thoroughly as the crime that it is.

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Friday, July 20, 2007 1:56 AM

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I look at the objective evidence, and there are so many holes in the 911/AlQaeda connection that I cannot fathom holding them solely or even primarily responsible for those attacks. We have turned the murder of all those people into a political platform instead of investigating this thoroughly as the crime that it is.



i agree.. its just hard to debate something that someone else will flatly deny or refuse to acknowledge. you cant get any talk show host to discuss the collapse of the towers, because its inconceivable that such a conspiracy would take place(..although, 'alqaeda' pulled it off). no conventional republican on this board will admit that any American, in government, had for-knowledge of the attacks, let alone engaged with complicity. why.. "that notion is 'traitorous!'". so to engage them, you have to do as Ron Paul does, and debate each subject on its merits

but seriously, you do have to ignore a lot of human history to miss the part about governments attacking their own people, under false pretenses... to be so oblivious to the frequency of this occurrence. what baffles me is the amount of christians who support this horrible foreign policy. they should know by our own doctrines that man by nature is imperfect, and that government, and its spiritual forces guiding it are our enemy. why they are so blindly entrusting and persuaded by these wolves in sheeps clothing is beyond me. one thing i despise are those who use religion as a guise for exploitation, because they turn and mislead people from the truth. but i try to remember that God will respond to them 'in kind'

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Sunday, July 22, 2007 4:22 AM

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but seriously, you do have to ignore a lot of human history to miss the part about governments attacking their own people, under false pretenses... to be so oblivious to the frequency of this occurrence. what baffles me is the amount of christians who support this horrible foreign policy. they should know by our own doctrines that man by nature is imperfect, and that government, and its spiritual forces guiding it are our enemy. why they are so blindly entrusting and persuaded by these wolves in sheeps clothing is beyond me. one thing i despise are those who use religion as a guise for exploitation, because they turn and mislead people from the truth. but i try to remember that God will respond to them 'in kind'



Careful man. The Secretary of State will confiscate your property and freeze your assets if they read that.

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Born in '79 here. You're all crazy old. Suprises me that Cit is 2 years younger than me though. Always had the impression he was a crusty old war vet.

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Sunday, July 22, 2007 5:57 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Born in '79 here. You're all crazy old. Suprises me that Cit is 2 years younger than me though. Always had the impression he was a crusty old war vet.

And why is that, exactly?



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Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
*various binky and diaper jokes* Chrisisall

I wouldn't worry Chris, many people grow incontinent as they age...


*falls down*



Uhhh...he got me...Chrisisall

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Monday, July 23, 2007 2:53 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Born in '79 here. You're all crazy old. Suprises me that Cit is 2 years younger than me though. Always had the impression he was a crusty old war vet.

And why is that, exactly?



Don't know... wasn't meant as an insult to ya though. Just suprised that I'm older than you is all. Growing up in the circles I did, I'm not used to much intelligent conversation coming out of anybody's mouth that is under 30. I know you mentioned millitary service of some type at some point too. Not sure if you were serious or joking when you said it though. If you did serve, you don't talk about it all the time.


EDIT: Also suprises me that Frem is only a little bit older than me too. I figured him for a lot older. Where the hell do you find the time to do all that you do man?

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Monday, July 23, 2007 7:28 AM


USAma Bin Laden is NOT charged with 9/11 Massacres
www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm

The CNN quote from USAma Bin Laden was perhaps from the following interview:

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"I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle. Drug smugglers from all over the world are in contact with the U.S. secret agencies. These agencies do not want to eradicate narcotics cultivation and trafficking because their importance will be diminished. The people in the U.S. Drug Enforcement Department are encouraging drug trade so that they could show performance and get millions of dollars worth of budget. General Noriega was made a drug baron by the CIA and, in need, he was made a scapegoat. In the same way, whether it is President Bush or any other U.S. President, they cannot bring Israel to justice for its human rights abuses or to hold it accountable for such crimes. What is this? Is it not that there exists a government within the government in the United Sates? That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. I have already said that we are not hostile to the United States. We are against the [U.S. Government] system, which makes other nations slaves of the United States, or forces them to mortgage their political and economic freedom. This system is totally in control of the American-Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States. It is clear that the American people are themselves the slaves of the Jews and are forced to live according to the principles and laws laid by them."
—Usama bin Laden, Ummat, BBC Monitoring Service, "Usama bin Laden Says Israeli Regime is Behind the 9-11 Attacks," September 28, 2001
www.public-action.com/911/oblintrv.html


USAma Bin Laden terrorizing New York City
www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/bin_laden_fbi_let_charter_flight_afte
r_911.htm


"A CIA agent allegedly met with suspected terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden in July, while the Saudi underwent treatment for kidney problems at an American hospital in Dubai, France's Le Figaro newspaper reported Wednesday. Bin Laden reportedly checked into the American Hospital Dubai, a 100-bed, acute-care general hospital, July 4 and stayed until July 14. Besides a stream of local dignitaries and family members, bin Laden's visitors included a local CIA agent, the newspaper reported. The agent was widely recognized locally, Le Figaro said, and later told several friends of the meeting. Le Figaro said bin Laden had serious kidney problems, and reportedly had a dialysis machine imported to Afghanistan last year. Citing a March 2000 report by Asia Week, the newspaper said bin Laden's illness stemmed from 'a renal infection that has spread to the liver, and needs specialized treatment.'"
—Elizabeth Bryant, UPI, "Bin Laden treated at US hospital," October 31, 2001

"The goal has never been to get Bin Laden."
—General Richard Myers, chairman, US Joint Chiefs of Staff at Pentagon, 9/11 Press for Truth
www.myspace.com/911pressfortruth

"I don't know whether we'll find him, I don't know that it's all that important, frankly. So we get him, and then what? There's a temporary feeling of goodness, but in the long run, we may make him bigger than he is today. He's hiding, and he knows we're looking for him. We know he's not particularly effective. I'm not sure there's that great of a return."
—General Peter Schoomaker, U.S. Army chief of staff at Pentagon, Fort Worth Star-Telegram, "General says eliminating bin Laden not priority," February 23, 2007
www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/world/4578111.html

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