This Seems Strangely Orwellian to Me

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CHRISISALL

Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:26 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
OOOHHH. Is this a pool ? I'll bet -- uhmm -- '50.

What about you, Rue, all that high minded liberal mentality must come from a kid....I bet you were born in like, 1965...

Did I get it? Chrisisall

RUE

Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:32 AM

Oh dear, no ....

Baby-boomer here. Born in '54. I grew up with Red Scare, cold war, duck and cover ... and a tad to late for the prime of the hippie movement.

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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:32 AM

'70

And don't listen to my friends tryin to convince you that's 1870... they LIEEeeee..

I got all paranoid and crochety real quicklike, maybe it's space dementia....

-F

RUE

Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:34 AM

FremD

WOW. You're a baaaybee... though you seem to have already packed in a lifetime.

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FREDGIBLET

Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:41 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Get this boy a bib.
He needs his Mama.

If he gets a bib I must be fresh out of the uterus.

1986.

SOUPCATCHER

Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:02 AM

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Originally posted by fredgiblet:
If he gets a bib I must be fresh out of the uterus.

1986.

Woohoo!

* gladly relinquishes "young whippersnapper" status *

* leans back against wall *

* spits *

* thinks about starting in on how kids these days have it easy *

* takes a nap instead *

ANTIMASON

Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:22 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

al Qaeda isn't a 'pre-9/11' strength. They were intent on destroying us BEFORE Bush was ever in office,

intent on destroying who, the entire US population, or our hundreds of years of cultural history? friend thats impossible! not any nation, especially alqaeda, is that big or powerful

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so what the hell has changed

for one, now they're in Iraq. they werent before, but you have since given them the incentive to recruit and ally themselves with other dissidents. alqaeda should thank you, not just for swelling their ranks, but for making us an easy target. Iraq may have had an irrelevant minority of sympathizers at one point, but they werent blowing themselves up in the streets. this kind of thing was not happening before 2003, so whos to say it wont end (to an extent)when we leave. if it doesnt, atleast we wont be in the middle of it. im not convinced the country will become a terrorist safe haven though, if we leave.. it might give the IRaqi citizens the motivation they need to stand for the type of country THEY want to live under

we should consider that maybe we're coming off as imperialists, imposing a socialist secular democracy by military force, on a people who are historically theocratic. turn the tables, and how would you respond in this case? you can bet the 2nd amendment id be resisting just the same, regardless of the occupiers intentions. i cant say thats NOT whats happening in IRaq. its ironic that social engineering is so decried by republicans, yet this is exactly what theyre doing in Iraq, by force of arms no less.. and yet they expect it to work!? you should know that it CAN ONLY backfire; and it will. can we let this be a lesson, to never again *unconstitutionally go to war to enforce UN resolutions, half way across the world, when we have no business doing so?

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other than we've killed or impriosoned 1000's of their leaders and followers, frozen much of their financial assets, tracked them down across Europe and the world.... yeah, LOT'S changed.

and all this with our military stretched to near transparency. imagine if we hadnt wasted our military and political goodwill and fortune and reserves on Iraq, maybe wed have dissolved alqaeda by now. unfortunately, i just see our continued presence and aggression in the region to continue providing fodder for extremists

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They're going to Iraq to be mowed down by the boat loads. Wow, that's some impressive training, acting as target practice for the US military!!

you think its that easy? the 'enemy' isnt wearing an opposing uniform, youre shooting and killing civilians, who apparently feel threatened by our presence. meanwhile untold innocents have been killed in the process. thats just unacceptable.

besides, the people who make up the bulk of the insurgency, arent going to take the trek across the Atlantic(or Pacific) to murder us, they just dont want us over there. then, we can return here and spend the hundreds of billions on legitimate national defense, like border enforcement.

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Better over there than here!! Good job, W !

if its 'inevitable' America will be attacked, then whats the point of attacking Iran or Syria, or occupying Iraq? we should focus on 'defense', not offense then, shouldnt we?

i think weve been safe for the last 6 years because terrorism isnt the threat its been made out to be. its down there with airline crashes and bathtub drownings. the fact that it hasnt happened in awhile definately isnt because 'W' keeps this country(and its borders) safe and secure. any nut with half a brain could have come here and harmed us by now; ESPECIALLY a group like 'alqaeda'!

but instead we'll carry on down this failed path until eventually we do piss the wrong people off, and then innocent Americas will get murdered; only it will be on account of this governments own rotten policies

SIGNYM

Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:02 AM

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FremD

WOW. You're a baaaybee... though you seem to have already packed in a lifetime.

Or two, or three...

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Always look upstream.

SIGNYM

Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:04 AM

I thought Fletch2 was a kid. Now I'm thinkin mebbe .... 65??? (Years not 1965).

Did I get it?????

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Always look upstream.

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:53 PM

Rue, and Sig, partial reason for that is that one of my parents had a condition that would have eventually been terminal had circumstances cut even that short - and thus my mother actually encouraged me to go for broke, squeeze every precious drop from life while you still have it, and enjoy health and youth while I still could, you see.

She went out of her way to not be protective, although I can imagine her hiding behind the curtains chewing her nails the day I tore the training wheels off my bike and proceded to pile up like fifty times in a row all determined to never need em again, and I can only imagine her dismay at my header off the rooftop with an improvised chute made of four hefty bags (which, incidentlly worked pretty well!) among other lunatic ideas.

So when ill fortune intervened via near fatal accident and crippling injury, it didn't really crush me down so much as it might have, and a broad range of life experience, if not employment experience, made adapting a lot simpler than it'd otherwise be... not that I accept limitation easily, you shoulda seen the row over mounting a more flexible ankle joint on the prosthetic leg so I could roller skate.

So even now, I'll get muddy, dirty, do the things my friends wouldn't *dare* or even conceive of cause eventually that clock is gonna run out, and when it does, imma throw a bomber from half court in spite of it, damned if I won't.

So to me, every moment is a precious one, to be consumed and savored, and now with two nieces and a nephew, if no children of my own, I find myself very concerned for the world they're gonna live in, worried that thanks to an ever increasing straighjacket of the mind and will, that they might not have many moments to enjoy or savor, with an oppressive society and government crushing anything but meek compliance and safe orderliness with ruthless efficiency in the name of power and profit.

Over my dead body, quite literally, will that ever happen - cause as long as I draw breath, I'll use any and every means I can possibly get away with to provide that future for them, you see.

If you ever wondered about my reasons, well, there you have it.

-wildwildFrem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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