This Seems Strangely Orwellian to Me
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Monday, August 31, 2026 15:50
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Again, the reasons for invasion of Iraq were laid down long before it ever happened.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
Makin money for thier buddies was just gravy on the taters.
And yes, I'm laughing at you too Rap 
That's what you do, to laughingstocks, which is what you have become with your complete denial of obvious realities - you've become RWED's very own baghdad bob.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Al Qaeda thanks you for your support.
Boy that is so damn true!
They're all Useful Idiots....Bush haters, America haters, social misfits, twisted, jealous miscreants, and the ever-faithful hate-everything mis-guided & educationally abused youth..YES..Al Qaida LOVES these folks in America & throughout the world...people who cannot see the forest through the trees...people who hold hypocritical and suicidal beliefs above national security and survival. yes..let the Dems take full control..Al Qaida, George Soros, Hamas, Hezbollah, Cuba, Hugo Chavez..all the other icons of the totally demented Left will dance in the streets with glee, as they prepare to wreak havoc to America...just like under Terrorist-enabler Clinton.
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I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic Josngsstraw....
Surely, you don't lump me in that pile for accusing Bush for being the straw that broke the camels back when it comes to the ongoing ruination of America by our politicians for DECADES.
I HATE LIBERAL COMMUNISTS!!!!!!
I HATE REPUBLICAN FASCISTS!!!!!!!
I've said it a billion times. In fact, there is a lot of good on both sides. My father says he can't figure me out because I'm like an extremist on both sides. And I suppose for a lot of issues that's true.
For example:
I support STRONGLY, the right to bear arms....
Yet I also support STRONGLY, right to abort your fetus. (personally, I could never do it, but I respect the individual's right to choose, so long as it's done VERY early on, before they are sentient and you're infringing on their rights)
I support Strongly the decentralization of Government and a strong policy of free trade...
But I also support somebody's right to marry somebody of the same sex in the court of law where you get the same treatment from Big Brother as you would if you were in a traditional marriage....
If you'd really like me to, I could list 100 more things here that I support from either side.
That's the problem. Neither side is on our side. They're two sides of the same coin... the same pendulum swinging back and forth and with every swing, it does nothing but make more laws restricting our freedoms.
I'd say I was Libertarian, but I don't like to even label myself. I follow the Constitution. It's the only thing that has made our lives as good as they've been the last 200 years. Piss on it or burn it now, even for "safety" and we won't ever get it back. Big Brother's weapons are too strong, and they won't give a shit about us having a tea party now. All the tea we buy comes dirt cheap from China....
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack
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"people who hold hypocritical and suicidal beliefs above national security and survival" Yep, that would be Bush and all the Bush-lovers. Let's see - al Qaida at pre 9/11 strength, secure in Afghanistan and Pakistan - sure sounds like a Bushism to me. Al Qaida intent on another spectacular strike with mass casualties on US home soil - thank you Bush supporters. Iraq NOW being used as a recruiting tool and radical Islam at the highest strength ever world-wide - thanks to Bush.
Thank YOU Jongstraw for your phenomenal success in making everyone safer !!! 
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic Josngsstraw....
Surely, you don't lump me in that pile for accusing Bush for being the straw that broke the camels back when it comes to the ongoing ruination of America by our politicians for DECADES.
I HATE LIBERAL COMMUNISTS!!!!!!
I HATE REPUBLICAN FASCISTS!!!!!!!
I've said it a billion times. In fact, there is a lot of good on both sides. My father says he can't figure me out because I'm like an extremist on both sides. And I suppose for a lot of issues that's true.
Mr. 6ixStringjack, I rarely refer or respond to individual posts, but yours intrigued me. To answer your question...no..I don't lump you in with the types I typically rant at and attack here. I find your posts interesting & entertaining, and full of passion. The vast majority of posters here either ignore me, or insult & mock me, and that's just swell by me. They usually only demonstrate their stupidity and hypocricy. i don't have a Wikipedia chip implanted up my ass like so many here, so my opinions don't count for squat. I'm lurking more than ever, especially fond of Auraptor's daily fights with the Kool-aid crowd...very entertaining...that man has guts, I really don't. Have a nice day!
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"i don't have a Wikipedia chip implanted up my ass" Does that mean your opinions are fact-free? I already knew that, dear.
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>al Qaeda thanks you for your support
Ahh... the fabulous argument that anyone looking at our goverment with open eyes must be an Al Qaeda lover. Don't burst a braincell there, Rap.
And, yes, lots of people are opening their eyes and believing what they see. Forty some percent want impeachment of Bush, sixty some percent want impeachment of Cheney.
New question (I'm so bad about hijacks!) how's come we've been in Iraq for 4 years and Al Qaeda is stronger than ever and that means we must stay in Iraq? OK, that's not such a hijack. "War is peace" and all, right Orwell?
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Jongstraw....
I thank you for that post. It really means more than you think. I know we've agreed on things in the past, and I know we've disagreed on things in the past. I've probably been a real ass about it at one time or another, but forgive me if I've forgotten what it was about... there's so many I disagree with. An ally in one thread is an enemy in another....
Obviously, we have some disagreements on this particular issue, but I belive that we also have many things we agree on.
I think our problem here, and in most of the "Real World", not just the RWED, is that we have aligned ourselves with sides that are not looking out for any of our good. Maybe even, we've allowed ourselves to become so complacent in the last 3 or so generations that we expect Government, whichever side, to look out for us. And that is our mistake. The Government exists to serve the will of the people.
My absolute favorite quote of Benjamin Franklin's, and not the trite and overused quote I used earlier, is "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
This is to say, that we are a republic, and not a Democracy. Democratic Liberals would confuse this easily since their party affiliation is so close in verbage to the word Democracy. The ancient Greeks were a great civilization, and they were Democratic, and where are they now?
What this quote means, is that we need decentralized Government. I'm perfectly fine with 10 states in the union desiring that they would like cigarette taxes to be raised to pay for children's health care. That way, people who had children and wanted healthcare could be together, even the smokers. And people like me, who don't have kids and don't want that can move someplace like Kentuckey where they've bareley ever raised taxes on cigarettes at all. I see no reason that anything needs to be universal. There's a lot of land, particularly in America, per capita, and I don't see why like minded people shouldn't be together and live life the way they see fit.
But Branch Davidians and Southern States in the Civil War can tell you how well that works out when you try to do it against the Will of The Powers That Be. The Davidians fell under a Democratic President, the South, under a Republican President.
Not coincidentally, this is why I'm 100% against the "popular vote" and 100% for the Electoral College. Trust me, I wasn't 2 years ago. I was just as pissed off as most people who hate Bush. But I like to think I've grown since then. A popular vote is slave to the media and the 49% who disagree will find themselves ruled by the 51% who agree. The electoral college takes into consideration what people of differnt backgrounds want against what people of other different backgrounds want. To make it a "popular" vote, is to make the winner whoever Avril Lavigne tells people to vote for when she takes her turn wearing the "Vote or Die" tank top in 2 years.
Fuck it... maybe that's what people want. Not to have to think for themselves and to vote for who our celebrity Gods and Goddesses want us to vote for. "A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack
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I'm moderately indifferent to popular Vs electoral college. The biggest problem I see with electoral college right now is that if someone, say, cheats in FL, they can do a relatively small cheat, and sway the national election since things are so evenly divided right now. I only pick FL as an example, never would I imply it has actually occurred. I'd say it out right. Ok, they cheated!
What we need is to fix the voting process so at least the fellow who wins some form of vote has done so honestly.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Fletch, yep it's nice to be "able" to audit "our" contractors, if we would choose to do so.
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But the point is you CAN audit them, while sending Paul Bremmer 2 palette loads of US currency (I kid you not) leads to "we dont know where it's gone......"
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