Privilege in the United States
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UPDATED: Saturday, July 26, 2025 06:23
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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
White Privilege in the United States, Is it true or not? Do we have an advantage because of our race, or color? Is this the original Affirmative Action?
Orgional?
Far from. Truth is, racism is a facet of our lifestyle, and has been for... lessee... some two thousand or so years. Give or take, of course.
From Roman times, people of white skin have been enslaving non-whites (And other white folks, as well). So if your looking for a person to blame, try Romulous.
Either or, the idea that one person is better than another because their skin is paler is a pervasive element in our society; has been since Spain first came in and obliterated the Aztec and Inca Empires. Fact is, we as a nation are still getting used to the distinct lack of Segregation and Jim Crow.
Now, being as I live in Farmingville, Blacks make up about 5% of the population. A more prevelant minority would be the Mexicans, namely, the Illegal ones.
Now, throughout most of my realizing that folks were different on account a their skin tone, I heard that (And I quote), "Those fucking lazy ass Beaners is taking up all of the jobs!"
Bull.
The only reason that folks come to America is to start a new, and (Hopefully), better life. An illegal alien comes in, and, Lo and Behold!, there are jobs, low paying but jobs nonetheless. Jobs what used to be taken up by teens and suchlike, but not so much anymore. But, when someone else who is simply not white, MY GOD!!!! Sound the drums and call in the bloody cavalry, it's an Invasion to take away all the jobs that we don't do!
How ever will we survive?
Oh, and a note on Affirmative Action- Historically, ever since it first started, the biggest beneficiaries of it have been WHITE WOMEN, turning the American Job market (Discluding such things like fast food and minimum wage stuff) from a White Fraternity to a mostly white Party, with other such folk looking on. Three hundred years of tradition is hard to beat. (If I can find a link to the statistics I mentioned, then I'll drop a link).
-Danny
A Ghost is all that's Left,
Of everything we Swore we Never would Forget,
Tried to bleed the Sickness,
But we drained our Hearts instead,
We are... We are the DEAD!!!!!!!!!!
THRICE RULES!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
White Privilege in the United States, Is it true or not? Do we have an advantage because of our race, or color? Is this the original Affirmative Action?
Orgional?
Far from. Truth is, racism is a facet of our lifestyle, and has been for... lessee... some two thousand or so years. Give or take, of course.
From Roman times, people of white skin have been enslaving non-whites (And other white folks, as well). So if your looking for a person to blame, try Romulous.
Either or, the idea that one person is better than another because their skin is paler is a pervasive element in our society; has been since Spain first came in and obliterated the Aztec and Inca Empires. Fact is, we as a nation are still getting used to the distinct lack of Segregation and Jim Crow.
Now, being as I live in Farmingville, Blacks make up about 5% of the population. A more prevelant minority would be the Mexicans, namely, the Illegal ones.
Now, throughout most of my realizing that folks were different on account a their skin tone, I heard that (And I quote), "Those fucking lazy ass Beaners is taking up all of the jobs!"
Bull.
The only reason that folks come to America is to start a new, and (Hopefully), better life. An illegal alien comes in, and, Lo and Behold!, there are jobs, low paying but jobs nonetheless. Jobs what used to be taken up by teens and suchlike, but not so much anymore. But, when someone else who is simply not white, MY GOD!!!! Sound the drums and call in the bloody cavalry, it's an Invasion to take away all the jobs that we don't do!
How ever will we survive?
Oh, and a note on Affirmative Action- Historically, ever since it first started, the biggest beneficiaries of it have been WHITE WOMEN, turning the American Job market (Discluding such things like fast food and minimum wage stuff) from a White Fraternity to a mostly white Party, with other such folk looking on. Three hundred years of tradition is hard to beat. (If I can find a link to the statistics I mentioned, then I'll drop a link).
-Danny
True and also you might also like to add that the biggest beneficiaries of the United States welfare system is white people, but we have all been condition to think of black people when the welfare system is ever mentioned.
I wasn't thinking about White privilege as racism, but now that you brought it up isn't White privilege a form of racism? I notice that we whites in the news, in books, and on the radio claiming that Black people are always screaming about racism. If I were to go by what every white I've ever heard say in the media, I would have to believe that there is not one white racist in all of America. We whites seriously believe that we are not racist and that the racism that our fathers and mothers demonstrated in the past is IN the past. Another benefit of White privilege I suspect. If you get enough people that believe that the moon doesnt exists I guess it ceases to exist.
strange planet with its strange people if you ask me.
-River
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Whites have more privilege, as do males, the middle aged, the educated, and the wealthy. What happens is that every category of person starts from a baseline assumption. So we are shocked when a wealthy, educated, middle-aged male turns out to be a crazed bankrobber because our expectations have been overturned, and we would be equally surprised (and perhaps suspicious) to find out that a poor, black male turns out to be a genuinely sensitive, repsonsible, well-educated person.
People are treated differently based on these assumptions. Women are treated differently then men by scientific review committees, car salesmen and auto mechanics. (There was a good article about a woman transgender scientist who experienced both). Blacks are treated differently on loan applications, apartment rentals, and car and home sales- even blacks with good credit ratings. This happens even over the phone: if the caller sounds "black" they will be turned down more often than people of the same credit rating and background. (Determined by a survey conducted by actors.)
Basically, whites are given more "leeway" in day to day interactions: when driving or jogging thru a neighborhood, when calling a teacher about an assignment, buying a car, etc. etc etc.
It's not impossible to sink below that level or to rise above it. But that kind of movement requires that you be known by your deeds- in other words, after you become personally known to others and have had a chance to break down their assumptions. But each new encounter is going to bring with it the same stereotypes as before.
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Blacks are treated differently on loan applications, apartment rentals, and car and home sales- even blacks with good credit ratings. This happens even over the phone: if the caller sounds "black" they will be turned down more often than people of the same credit rating and background. (Determined by a survey conducted by actors.)
So there are no black people working in banks? No black property owners? No black car dealers or mortgage brokers?
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Basically, whites are given more "leeway" in day to day interactions: when driving or jogging thru a neighborhood, when calling a teacher about an assignment, buying a car, etc. etc etc.
Which neighbourhoods? Predominantly white or predominantly black.
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Did I say "no" or "none" anywhere? Learn to read. Since non-blacks make up about 92% of the entire population... and whites make up a disproportionate number of people in economic power... that comprises the vast majority of black economic/ monetary experience.
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You said Blacks have trouble getting loans, apartments, etc., you did not say most Blacks. Perhaps my problem is I read too well.
Just disregard the points I brought up if they undermine your cherished ideals.
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No, blacks have more trouble buying cars, or getting loans and apartments etc. than whites. They tend to be turned down more often or are charged higher rates. There have been plenty of surveys where the same application was turned in by two sets of people who have the same background (income, credit rating, family size, history etc.) where once the evaluator found out the couple was black the results were less favorable. This is by direct head-to-head comparison with the same bank officer, landlord etc. separated by (in some cases) a mere few minutes.
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Truly disturbing..., got any links?
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This is just the latest. (LA) I've seen this done so many times thru the years I've lost track of all of them.
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:XdN8iZ02LcoJ:www.examiner.com/a-69
3796~Survey__Blacks_Face_Housing_Bias_in_N_O_.html+blacks+rental+survey&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us
Here's another (CA)
http://www.pww.org/article/view/6022/1/238/
And another. Nassau County (NY)
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE1DF133DF931A15751C
0A9629C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print
Aw hell, just google "black rent survey tester", you'll find a bunch.
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Thanks SignyM. I know we should strive to be better than others but I can't help but think how the reverse would be true if a white person tried to rent an apartment in say Zimbabwe.
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